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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">???<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Context is NOT in the current version of the CIBA spec:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><a href="https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/cgi-bin/xml2rfc.cgi?Submit=Submit&format=ascii&mode=html&type=ascii&url=https://bitbucket.org/openid/mobile/raw/tip/draft-mobile-client-initiated-backchannel-authentication-01.xml?at=default">https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/cgi-bin/xml2rfc.cgi?Submit=Submit&format=ascii&mode=html&type=ascii&url=https://bitbucket.org/openid/mobile/raw/tip/draft-mobile-client-initiated-backchannel-authentication-01.xml?at=default</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Sorry I couldn’t attend the call due to another meeting.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Axel<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Were you looking at the html file in bitbucket? That is manually updated and I would like to remove it because the link above always works<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Openid-specs-mobile-profile [mailto:openid-specs-mobile-profile-bounces@lists.openid.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>philippe.clement@orange.com<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 01, 2016 5:09 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Lodderstedt, Torsten; openid-specs-mobile-profile@lists.openid.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Openid-specs-mobile-profile] minutes of MODRNA WG Call on Nov 30th 2016<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Dear all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Please find below the preliminary minutes of our call. In case of error or misunderstanding due to the huge density of discussions, please let me know<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Participants :</span></u><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="BM_BEGIN"></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Torsten, Charles, Nicolas, Philippe, Petteri, Joerg, Gonzalo, John, Siva, Bjorn, Celestin<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Agenda :</span></u><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">UQ update<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">SIBA update<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Discussion</span></u><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Siba update</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">context parameter still present in the specs, last call had recommended to remove it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Torsten states that we haven’t had any discussion about the context parameter, and we already have the binding message. Specs seem not complete enough to describe the needs.
Use Cases are lacking to explain what is supposed to be done with SIBA.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Siva explains that for Customer care, CRM people can ask a person physically present at a desk or by phone, to answer directly the content of a message sent to the mobile of
the people. CRM justifies the binding, even if no consumption device, replaced by a direct communication OOB.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Discussions occur regarding binding message and long message, and needed justifications to differentiate them.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Difficulties to understand if we are speaking of message length limitations or something else, and if some existing implementations in Mobile Connect would impact the discussions
led in OIF MODRNA.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Gonzalo mentions that the SP has to know what the message displayed on the user device is. He also mentions that the binding message must have the same definition/usage in
MODRNA profile and in Mobile Connect specs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Torsten and John mention the legitimate role of the OP to display on the authentication device during the authentication phase.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Gonzalo proposes to update the SIBA specs at the end of the next week, before the next call.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Torsten ask the question whether someone objects to incorporate MODRNA specs into mobile connect specs, no one objects.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Discussion on the consistency between front and back channel, regarding the usage of parameters.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Decision:
<b>let’s talk of the Use Cases first </b>to filter what depends upon the RP and the OP. John and Joerg volunteer to work on it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Put on bitbucket version n°8.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">2 evolutions are discussed during the call:
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">static polling URL (registration) : static polling endpoint will be retrieved in discovery. To be added in draft v9 (due on dec 2nd)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">new request for flow terminated by client: There is currently no need to add this in the UQ API. If any contributor has a specific need, he can express it on the
mailing list<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Discussed: security considerations and mecanisms used by UQ, and threats. This topic to be added in each section.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Nicolas will provide a stable draft of UQ before end of this week
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Philippe<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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