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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hello Axel,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">   Now I understand your point and I agree.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">   It will be in draft v8,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Nicolas<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">De :</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Axel.Nennker@telekom.de [mailto:Axel.Nennker@telekom.de]
<br>
<b>Envoyé :</b> mercredi 23 novembre 2016 10:18<br>
<b>À :</b> AILLERY Nicolas IMT/OLPS<br>
<b>Cc :</b> openid-specs-mobile-profile@lists.openid.net; MARAIS Charles IMT/OLPS; CLEMENT Philippe IMT TECHNO; VASSELET Mickaël IMT/OLN<br>
<b>Objet :</b> UQ error_code<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hi Nicolas,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks for the update.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I think it is best to continue the discussion of single topics in single emails. So here it goes.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Regarding error_code:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">OAuth2 says in
<a href="https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6749#section-5.2">https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6749#section-5.2</a> e.g.:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New","serif"">HTTP/1.1 400 Bad Request<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New","serif"">     Content-Type: application/json;charset=UTF-8<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New","serif"">     Cache-Control: no-store<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New","serif"">     Pragma: no-cache<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New","serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New","serif"">     {<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New","serif"">       "error":"invalid_request"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New","serif"">     }<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">UQ says
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">In section Errors:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New","serif"">        "error_code":"unknown_user",<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New","serif"">        "error_description":"The user is unknown",<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New","serif"">        "error_uri":"<a href="https://server.example.com/errors/unknown_user">https://server.example.com/errors/unknown_user</a>"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Why is UQ using “error_code” while OAuth2 uses “error” for the same value?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I agree with you – I think this is what you intended – that using “error_code” for the error code is better than using “error” for the error code.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">But OAuth2 uses “error” for the error_code and specs deriving from OAuth2 should not change the field names.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="https://bitbucket.org/openid/mobile/raw/default/draft-mobile-authentication-01.txt">
https://bitbucket.org/openid/mobile/raw/default/draft-mobile-authentication-01.txt</a> does not mention error structures at all. Maybe this is the way to go for UQ too – just list the possible error code (section 5.1) and drop the text re-explaining the JSON
 structure…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Sorry I was not clear in my review remarks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Axel<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:nicolas.aillery@orange.com">nicolas.aillery@orange.com</a> [<a href="mailto:nicolas.aillery@orange.com">mailto:nicolas.aillery@orange.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 22, 2016 6:58 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Nennker, Axel<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:openid-specs-mobile-profile@lists.openid.net">openid-specs-mobile-profile@lists.openid.net</a>; Lodderstedt, Torsten; MARAIS Charles IMT/OLPS; CLEMENT Philippe IMT TECHNO; VASSELET Mickaël IMT/OLN<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: User Questioning RE: [Openid-specs-mobile-profile] minutes of MODRNA WG Call Nov 16th 2016<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hello Axel,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">   Thank you for your review.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">   Please find my comments in your remarks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Nicolas<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">De :</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:Axel.Nennker@telekom.de">Axel.Nennker@telekom.de</a> [<a href="mailto:Axel.Nennker@telekom.de">mailto:Axel.Nennker@telekom.de</a>]
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<b>Envoyé :</b> jeudi 17 novembre 2016 13:25<br>
<b>À :</b> AILLERY Nicolas IMT/OLPS; MARAIS Charles IMT/OLPS<br>
<b>Cc :</b> <a href="mailto:Torsten.Lodderstedt@telekom.de">Torsten.Lodderstedt@telekom.de</a>;
<a href="mailto:openid-specs-mobile-profile@lists.openid.net">openid-specs-mobile-profile@lists.openid.net</a><br>
<b>Objet :</b> User Questioning RE: [Openid-specs-mobile-profile] minutes of MODRNA WG Call Nov 16th 2016<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Hi Nicolas, hi Charles,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I reviewed the UQ draft and here are my first remarks:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Please consider whether the word “FORBIDDEN” can be replaced by “MUST NOT”<br>
e.g. in 4.1.1 I suggest to reverse the order and rephrase to avoid FORBIDDEN:<br>
“MANDATORY if the Access Token is not tied with an End-User. MUST NOT be present if the Access Token is tied with an End-User,”<span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:red">[NAY] OK, draft modified</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Regarding 4.1.1 User Questioning Request<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">“AUTHORIZATION” the paragraph seems to exclude the possibility to use client_id/client_secret and BASIC auth, right? Or does use of client_id/client_secret
 constitute the case “not tied to the user” while an access token constitutes the case “tied to the user”?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:red">[NAY] UQ API is defined as an OAuth 2.0 API, requiring an access_token. Client_id/client_secret or HTTP Basic Auth are excluded.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">user_id “tied to the user” should be explained. I suggest adding text to the paragraph about “AUTHORIZATION” and the access token.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:red">[NAY] OK, draft modified (4.1.2.1)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">user_id versus sub<br>
Why not use sub always instead of user_id? “sub” has the advantage that it is not widely known because it was assigned by the OP to the user for this Client. “sub” is never reassigned while a user_id might not be eternally assigned to the user. Yes, User_id_type
 can be sub but sub is harder to misuse by a rogue Client.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">4.1.2.2 says “user_id as a reachability means”: Should the OP be free to decide how to contact the user on which device? Or does the Client decide
 on that by requesting a certain channel/device to be used?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I suggest to add “sub” as MANDATORY to the UQ request.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:red">[NAY] ‘sub’ is an option, but other types  (e.g MSISDN) must be allowed for RP that don’t use (or don’t known) the sub. The OP must find
 a mean to reach the user. If the user_id is a reachability identifier, it should be used.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">“wished_acr” Why not use “acr_values” from OpenID.Core?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:red">[NAY] there is more semantic in ‘wished’<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">“wished_amr” like acr_values?: amr_values?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:red">[NAY] there is more semantic in ‘wished’<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">“wished_*” is the order of the values important? There is no text regarding the order.<span style="color:red">
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:red">[NAY] OK, draft modified (order SHOULD be considered by OP)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Regarding 4.1.2.2 Processing user_id<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I would not conflate user_id as sub and user_id as reachability means!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:red">[NAY] a user_id is just a user identifier. It can be of different types. Some types can be directly used to reach the user (e.g. MSISDN),
 other cannot (e.g. sub). The way the user is reach is up to the OP. The user_id is a mean for the RP to designate the User. If the access_token is associated with a user, the user_id is useless.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<pre style="mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:114.0pt;text-indent:-42.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6"><![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">           </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New","serif"">Wondering about the wording here:<br>“If the user_id is present in both the User Questioning Request and the Access Token, an error is raised.”<br>If the access token is “SlAV32hkKG” does this cover the “present in” wording?<br>How about: “If the user_id is present but the Access Token is bound to a user then the user_id and the sub associated with the Access Token MUST be identical”. (Not replacing user_id by sub in this for now. I think the parameter “user_id” should be replaced by “sub” and a reachability parameter)<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:red">[NAY] If the identifiers are identical, one is useless. The spec states that the Client has to choose to identify the user thanks to either
 the AT or the user_id, but not both. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Regarding 4.1.3 Successful Response<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I am not sure whether transporting the polling URL in the Location header.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:red">[NAY] OK, draft modified (JSON is used)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I am not sure whether the polling location should be dynamic.<br>
Being dynamic has advantages because it can be dynamic based on client and/or question and/or server load etc…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Being dynamic has the disadvantage that the Client has to decide at polling time whether some policy might forbid it to talk to the polling endpoint.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:red">[NAY] It a pending discussion<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<pre><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New","serif"">The example does not contain a JSON structure! Should this read like this:<br>HTTP/1.1 200 OK<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="draft-user-questioning-api.xml-750"></a><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New","serif"">{  “Location”: “<a href="https://server.example.com/questions_polling/984dcc7d3d4d4b0f9f8022e344f9">https://server.example.com/questions_polling/984dcc7d3d4d4b0f9f8022e344f9</a>”,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="draft-user-questioning-api.xml-751"></a><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New","serif"">   “Question_id”: “984dcc7d3d4d4b0f9f8022e344f9”<br>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:red">[NAY] OK, draft modified (JSON is used)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Regarding 4.1.4 Error Response:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Why is this different to OAuth2 Section 5.2 Error Response?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><a href="https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6749#page-45">https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6749#page-45</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:red">[NAY] It detailed in §5 that uses the same structure as OAuth. The way the structure (error_info) is transmitted depends on the endpoint
 (400 or POST)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Regarding 4.3.2 Error Response<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Like 4.1.4 make this look more like OAuth2 Section 5.2 Error Response?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:red">[NAY] It detailed in §5 that uses the same structure as OAuth. The way the structure (error_info) is transmitted depends on the endpoint
 (400 or POST)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Regarding 6.1 Implementation of questioning methods<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Change headline to headline style (Capitalized Words)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:red">[NAY] I did not understand the comment<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Add supported AMR and ACR etc to discovery.<br>
“To prevent these errors, it can inform the Clients of its limitation and limit the possible questions or statements.”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:red">[NAY] OK, draft modified (amr_list, acr_list)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:red">[NAY] Would you add ‘displayed_question_length’, ‘displayed_statement_length’, ‘displayed_statement_number’ in discovery ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Have to go now – So stopped reviewing for now before section 7 Security Considerations.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Axel<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From: Openid-specs-mobile-profile [<a href="mailto:openid-specs-mobile-profile-bounces@lists.openid.net">mailto:openid-specs-mobile-profile-bounces@lists.openid.net</a>]
 On Behalf Of <a href="mailto:philippe.clement@orange.com">philippe.clement@orange.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 6:07 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">To: Lodderstedt, Torsten;
<a href="mailto:openid-specs-mobile-profile@lists.openid.net">openid-specs-mobile-profile@lists.openid.net</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Subject: [Openid-specs-mobile-profile] minutes of MODRNA WG Call Nov 16th 2016<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Please find below the preliminary notes of the call.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Should you detect any error or misunderstanding, please let me know.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Participants : John, Axel, Bjorn, Charles, Torsten, Joerg<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Agenda :<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">• Review UQ specs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">• Review SIBA specs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">• Next workshop<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Discussion :<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">User Questionning<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">A new draft has been released by Orange, following questions/remarks from Torsten<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Axel and Bjorn volunteer to review the UQ draft specs.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Torsten to send a reminder to the list for reviewing, before entering the implementers draft process.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">A proposal is made for OIF to present a status update of UQ work at the next PET GSMA meeting (end of November). Orange will help to draft this presentation.
 PET chairman to be contacted for insertion into the agenda.  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">SIBA<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Questions about the context parameter that shows up in the specs. Discussions in Paris had only stated a use for the binding message to interlock devices.
 Recommendation from the call is to remove this parameter. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Charles volunteers to post comments on SIBA specs, other comments are awaited from the list.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Mentionning the Use Cases in SIBA specs is requested to understand some choices in the specs, and will avoid any duplication with User Questionning.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Idea of merging some parts of SIBA and UQ are set on the table, but draft specs should be more mature.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Next workshop<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">For information, John should be in London January 18 and 19th, to take into consideration.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">AOB: push style<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Discussion occurs on OAuth list regarding push style for the device flow.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Some arguments are presented to balance push vs pull approach, for UQ.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">• Complexity for the RP to implement 2 solutions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">• Resource optimization from an OP side<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">• Number of requests per second<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">• Delay for the user to answer the question (seconds, minutes ?)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Discussion to be continued on the list through the specs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Philippe<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<pre><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New","serif"">Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New","serif"">pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New","serif"">a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration,<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New","serif"">Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou falsifie. Merci.<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New","serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New","serif"">This message and its attachments may contain confidential or privileged information that may be protected by law;<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New","serif"">they should not be distributed, used or copied without authorisation.<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<pre><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New","serif"">As emails may be altered, Orange is not liable for messages that have been modified, changed or falsified.<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New","serif"">Thank you.<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc
pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler
a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration,
Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou falsifie. Merci.

This message and its attachments may contain confidential or privileged information that may be protected by law;
they should not be distributed, used or copied without authorisation.
If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this message and its attachments.
As emails may be altered, Orange is not liable for messages that have been modified, changed or falsified.
Thank you.
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