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Hi Gonza,<br>
<br>
thanks for your review. Please find my comments inline.<br>
<br>
best regards,<br>
Torsten.<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 17.08.2016 14:46, schrieb GONZALO
FERNANDEZ RODRIGUEZ:<br>
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<div>Hi Torsten,</div>
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<div>I have been reviewed your account migration proposal
(Thanks a lot!!!). Regarding the Account Migration Request
(Section 3.2) there is a note “OPEN” that says: “Is POST the
right verb? think so since user account state is change at
the old OP (subject values are invalidated)” and I was
wondering two questions:</div>
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<li>What is supposed to mean “subject values are
invalidated”? Do you mean to remove the user account?</li>
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It definitely means to remove (or deactivate) the PPIDs, which where
attached to the OP account with the old OP and have been migrated to
the new OP. It could also mean to remove the OP account at all.<br>
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<li>Shouldn’t be necessary a three handshake mean to
finalise the migration?. I think that maybe the new
operator could make a GET request to obtain the migration
data and once it consider they are well migrated and
stored in their database make a final POST request to
indicate to the old operator that the user has been
correctly migrated and their account can be removed.</li>
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This sounds reasonable. I would like to know the other WG member's
opinion on this topic.<br>
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<div>Best,</div>
<div>Gonza.</div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Tuesday 26 July
2016 at 16:17<br>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re:
[Openid-specs-mobile-profile] New Version of Account Migration
Draft<br>
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<div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="FR"><span
style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;
font-size:11pt; color:black">Hi Philippe,<br>
<br>
thanks for your proposal. I basically think it is a good
idea if OP1 would indicate the migration to the RP.<br>
<br>
Two questions/comments came into my mind instantly:<br>
- how is OP1 supposed to learn/know that the user account
was migrated to OP2 and what the ppid was at OP1?<br>
- I would not rely on the unsigned error response from OP1
to tell the RP where the user account was migrated to.
This data could be faked by an attacker.
<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
Torsten. <br>
<br>
Mit TouchDown von meinem Android-Telefon gesendet
(<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.symantec.com">www.symantec.com</a>)<br>
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<b>Received:</b> Dienstag, 26 Juli 2016, 15:48<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> RE: New Version of Account Migration
Draft<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
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125);">Hi Torsten,</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);" lang="EN-US">Thank you for this very valuable
document.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);" lang="EN-US">By reading the set of 2 phases,
I was wondering if we could add a scenario combining
these 2 ones.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);" lang="EN-US">In this scenario, we could have:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);" lang="EN-US">Prerequisite:
</span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
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color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US"><span style="">1-<span
style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt;
line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New
Roman';">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);" lang="EN-US">User had an account on a
previous MNO (OP1)</span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US"><span style="">2-<span
style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt;
line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New
Roman';">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);" lang="EN-US">User’s account on OP1 is closed</span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US"><span style="">3-<span
style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt;
line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New
Roman';">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);" lang="EN-US">User has an account on a new MNO
(OP2)</span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
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color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US"><span style="">4-<span
style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
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Roman';">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);" lang="EN-US">Eventually, OP1 knows that user
has migrated to OP2</span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
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color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US"><span style="">5-<span
style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
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Roman';">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);" lang="EN-US">RP knows former MNO (OP1)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);" lang="EN-US">Use Case:</span></p>
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</span></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);" lang="EN-US">User visits his usual RP and
starts authentication to access the service</span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
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color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US"><span style="">7-<span
style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
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Roman';">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);" lang="EN-US">RP starts the OIDC flow with OP1
with usual secured hints regarding the user</span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US"><span style="">8-<span
style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
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Roman';">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);" lang="EN-US">OP1 answer’s with an error code
“account migrated” and sends back to the RP all the
necessary subject values. If OP1 knows what OP user
has migrated to, it is inserted in the answer</span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
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color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US"><span style="">9-<span
style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
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Roman';">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);" lang="EN-US">RP interacts with the user to
get his new OP (discovery process), unless RP
already knows what OP user has migrated to.</span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US"><span style="">10-<span
style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt;
line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New
Roman';"></span></span></span><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-US">RP
starts the authentication process with OP2</span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US"><span style="">11-<span
style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt;
line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New
Roman';"></span></span></span><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-US">According
to the success of authentication on OP2, RP migrates
subject values for his RP’s account</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);" lang="EN-US">This Use case would take place
in one shot, at the moment where user needs to
authenticate at RP to get the service, so it would
be very efficient in terms of migration</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);" lang="EN-US">It minimizes the situation of
cascading OPs
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);" lang="EN-US">It avoids to install a dialog
between OP1 and OP2 and privacy concerns regarding
transfer of personal information from OP1 to OP2.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);" lang="EN-US">Then it avoids some situations
where user will not start the migration process by
accessing a specific service to be developped on
OP2.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);" lang="EN-US">It avoids limitations in
Authorization Grant lifetime.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);" lang="EN-US">I could have missed something
important, and so I’m looking forward to any
feedback from the list</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);" lang="EN-US">Kind regards,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);" lang="EN-US">Philippe</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
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125);" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:
10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">De :</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma,
sans-serif;"> Openid-specs-mobile-profile [<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:openid-specs-mobile-profile-bounces@lists.openid.net">mailto:openid-specs-mobile-profile-bounces@lists.openid.net</a>]
<b>De la part de</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Torsten.Lodderstedt@telekom.de">Torsten.Lodderstedt@telekom.de</a><br>
<b>Envoyé :</b> mardi 19 juillet 2016 13:30<br>
<b>À :</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:openid-specs-mobile-profile@lists.openid.net">openid-specs-mobile-profile@lists.openid.net</a><br>
<b>Objet :</b> [Openid-specs-mobile-profile] New
Version of Account Migration Draft</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Hi all,</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">I just
published -01 of the account migration draft at
openid.net (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://openid.net/wordpress-content/uploads/2014/04/draft-account-migration-01.html">http://openid.net/wordpress-content/uploads/2014/04/draft-account-migration-01.html</a>).
The source code can be found in our Bitbucket
repo.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">This is a
significant rewrite of the specification based on
your valuable feedback. Thank you! Although I
tried to incorporate all review comments, please
bear with me if I missed a comment. Please let me
know, so I can incorporate it in the next
revision.
</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </span></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">I applied the
following changes to the document:</span></p>
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style="">·<span style="font-style: normal;
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</span></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">reorganized the
draft</span></p>
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text-indent:-18.0pt"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><span
style="">·<span style="font-style: normal;
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</span></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt;
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introduction and overview</span></p>
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style="">·<span style="font-style: normal;
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</span></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">stated scope of
the draft and what is currently out of scope</span></p>
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style="">·<span style="font-style: normal;
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</span></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">changed
terminology from porting to migration</span></p>
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style="">·<span style="font-style: normal;
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</span></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">changed migration
data structure to be different from an id token</span></p>
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style="">·<span style="font-style: normal;
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</span></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">cleaned up
references</span></p>
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style="">·<span style="font-style: normal;
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