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Hi Bjorn,<br>
<br>
wrt "new application": sounds reasonable<br>
wrt signing algorithm(s): I think we need to decide on (and state)
the supported (or better mandatory to implement) algorithms for
interop reasons. Otherwise, a receiver must implement each and every
alg in order to be compatible with every potential client. I also
think we need to somehow describe how the receiver is supposed to
obtain key material needed to verify the statement's signature. We
need a similar decision for the login token hint. So what is the
opinion of other WG members?<br>
<br>
best regards,<br>
Torsten.<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 18.07.2015 um 00:41 schrieb Hjelm,
Bjorn:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Torsten,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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see my comments below.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">BR,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Bjorn<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Lodderstedt, Torsten [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:t.lodderstedt@telekom.de">mailto:t.lodderstedt@telekom.de</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 16, 2015 11:19 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Hjelm, Bjorn<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Openid-specs-mobile-profile<br>
<b>Subject:</b> AW: [Openid-specs-mobile-profile] MODRNA
WG Call<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="DE">Hi Bjorn,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="DE"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">thanks
for sharing this document with us.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Here
are my comments:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">1.
– “asserted by a primary MNO that the client has a
relationship with” – That’s one option. Another could be
that the statement is issued by a central registry all MNOs
rely on. So my suggestion for this spec is to talk of a
“trusted entity, e.g. a primary MNO” – potentially also
“developer MNO”</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><b><i>[Bjorn:]
Agreed.</i></b></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">1.2
Terminology: I think this should be replaced by MODRNA
specific terminology, e.g. MNO</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><b><i>[Bjorn:]
Added definition for MNO but will change this section
based on final decision by the group.</i></b></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">3.1.
Editors Note 1: I would suggest to add a implementation note
section and explain the options we see there, including
using the statement as client_id -> note: If the
operators uses the statement as client_id it won’t most
likely not issue a secret, which contradicts the text in the
first sentence of this section.</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><b><i>[Bjorn:]
Revising the section to add possible options.</i></b></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">3.1,
2<sup>nd</sup> paragraph: “If the client is registered with
another MNO, a new version of the application is required.”
– What does “new application” mean?</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><b><i>[Bjorn:]
I believe “new application” should be new Client_ID if I
remember the discussion correctly. Am I wrong in my
recollection?</i></b></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">3.1.
Editors note 3: I think the introduction or a requirements
section should state that this spec will support this
feature.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Signature
algorithm – I suggest we limit this to RSA (to start with)</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">
<b><i>[Bjorn:] If there is group agreement to limit to RSA
then I’ll mark this in the draft.</i></b></span><span
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">What
is/are “acus”?</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><b><i>[Bjorn:]
Typo. Should be “Aalowed cars”. Notes from IIW.</i></b></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">What’s
“gti”?</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><i>[Bjorn:]
<b>Typo. Should be “jti”. Notes from IIW.</b></i></span><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Torsten.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
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Hjelm, Bjorn [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Bjorn.Hjelm@VerizonWireless.com">mailto:Bjorn.Hjelm@VerizonWireless.com</a>]
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<b>Ge</b></span><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
lang="DE">sendet:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
lang="DE"> Mittwoch, 20. Mai 2015 02:50<br>
<b>An:</b> Lodderstedt, Torsten;
Openid-specs-mobile-profile<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> RE: [Openid-specs-mobile-profile] MODRNA
WG Call<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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lang="DE">Attached is a revised version of the draft
registration spec.</span><span
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lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="DE">BR,</span><span
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lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="DE">Bjorn</span><span
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lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="DE">-----Original Appointment-----<br>
<b>From:</b> Lodderstedt, Torsten [<a
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href="mailto:t.lodderstedt@telekom.de">mailto:t.lodderstedt@telekom.de</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 18, 2015 10:17 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Lodderstedt, Torsten;
Openid-specs-mobile-profile<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Openid-specs-mobile-profile] MODRNA WG
Call<br>
<b>When:</b> Wednesday, May 20, 2015 4:00 PM-5:00 PM
(UTC+01:00) Amsterdam, Berlin, Bern, Rome, Stockholm,
Vienna.<br>
<b>Where:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""
lang="DE">Hinweis: Die oben angegebene Abweichung von GMT
berücksichtigt keine Anpassungen für Sommerzeit.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="DE">*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="DE">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="DE">I won’t be able to attend but John will moderate
the call instead (thanks!).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="DE">I would suggest the following topics:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="DE">Discussion of discovery design (native vs. web –
probably using sequence diagrams)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="DE">Status of registration spec (esp. software
statement contents)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="DE">Alignment of GSMA work and authentication draft<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="DE">best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="DE">Torsten.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="DE"> << File: ATT00002.txt >>
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