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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Dear all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Please accept my apologies for not attending this last call on Wednesday.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">I was stuck in a Digital Identity Seminar at the MEDEF, the largest entrepreneur network in France. I had intended to escape for our call, but the doors were well guarded (;-)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">I’ve read with a great interest the topics you discussed, and
<b>I’m pretty in line with considering to extend scope of WG to cover attributes/claims/scopes<o:p></o:p></b></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Regarding “Discussion about LOAs,AMRs , ACRs” is the question to approach a taxonomy, or at least a 2 level structure of concrete LOA/acr ?
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">I must admit that only 4 LOAs (or 3 on an european eIDAS approach) are too few for the RP and for the Ops that could build commercial offers comprising detailed authentication means<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Philippe<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">De :</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Openid-specs-mobile-profile [mailto:openid-specs-mobile-profile-bounces@lists.openid.net]
<b>De la part de</b> Lodderstedt, Torsten<br>
<b>Envoyé :</b> mercredi 19 novembre 2014 18:03<br>
<b>À :</b> openid-specs-mobile-profile@lists.openid.net<br>
<b>Objet :</b> [Openid-specs-mobile-profile] OIDC Mobile profile call Nov 19th: preliminary notes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Participants;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE">Jörg Connotte (Deutsche Telekom)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE">Sebastian Ebling (Deutsche Telekom)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE">Roland Hedberg (Umeå University)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE">John Bradley (Ping)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES">Gozalo Fernander Rodriguez (Telefonica)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES">Michael Engan (T-Mobile US)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Discussion of John’s discovery proposal<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-US"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">Discovery for web apps based on a redirect protocol (OAuth) with special scope<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">Main motivation – “use what’s already there” – mechanisms prevent e.g. open redirectors<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">Additionally, describe usage of account chooser to further stream line discovery/login process<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">John will document proposal in mobile discovery spec<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Discussion about usage of login_hint, id_token_hint<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">Different use cases (prefilling username vs. enforce re-login for known user account/known subject)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">Jörg will prepare description of what to use for which purpose<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Gonzalo mentioned new project item “attribute providing” at GSMA mobile connect project<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">Could consider to extend scope of WG to cover attributes/claims/scopes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Discussion about LOAs,AMRs , ACRs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">Difficult topic as RPs seem to get to know detailed information regarding authenticators which somehow contradicts abstraction introduced by ACRs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-US"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">Providing RPs with detaillied information will probably result in hundreds (if not thousands) of ACR or AMR values – limits agility and interop<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-US"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">Could try to define reasonable ACR (not directly adopt e.g. ISO LOAs)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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