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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Dear all ,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Please find below the final notes after remarks…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Philippe<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:FR">De :</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:FR"> CLEMENT Philippe IMT TECHNO
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<b>Envoyé :</b> vendredi 10 octobre 2014 10:47<br>
<b>À :</b> 'openid-specs-mobile-profile@lists.openid.net'<br>
<b>Cc :</b> Lodderstedt, Torsten (t.lodderstedt@telekom.de); Connotte, Joerg<br>
<b>Objet :</b> OIDC Mobile profile call Oct 8th: preliminary notes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Dear all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Please find below the preliminary notes of our call “OpenID Connect profile for mobile” that occurred on Oct 8<sup>th</sup> 2014<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I may have missed some important things, please let me know. Final notes will then follow with potential modifications
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span lang="EN-US">Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Roland Hedberg<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Gonzalo Fernandez, Telefonica<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Bjorn Hjelm, Verizon<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Gautam Hazari, GSMA<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Torsten Lodderstedt, Deutsche Telekom<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Sebastian Ebling, Deutsche Telekom<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Tim Bray, independent<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Jörg Connotte, Deutsche Telekom<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">John Bradley, Ping Identity<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Philippe Clément, Orange<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span lang="EN-US">Agenda:<o:p></o:p></span></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span lang="EN-US"><o:p><span style="text-decoration:none"> </span></o:p></span></u></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">Status of document split (John, Bjorn, Jörg)</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">Status of use case outline (Tim)</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">Other projects</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:54.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2;text-autospace:none">
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">Continue discussion regarding open topics
</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:54.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2;text-autospace:none">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><span style="mso-list:Ignore">5.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">MSISDN and privacy</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:54.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2;text-autospace:none">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><span style="mso-list:Ignore">6.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">MNOs as single, virtual IDP or autonomous IDPs/ Mobile phone number portability</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:18.0pt;text-autospace:none"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span lang="EN-US">Decisions:<o:p></o:p></span></u></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4"><![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Symbol"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">A special call to be organized next week (John, Bjorn, Joerg) regarding structure of 3 docs (overview, abstract…)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">Use Case doc to work on<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">Continue discussions on the mailing list<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span lang="EN-US"><o:p><span style="text-decoration:none"> </span></o:p></span></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span lang="EN-US">Discussion:<o:p></o:p></span></u></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">Status of document split (John, Bjorn, Jörg)</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:54.0pt;text-autospace:none"><span lang="EN-US">Questionning on the structure of the documents, a call to be organized next week to fix it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">Status of use case outline (Tim)</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:54.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">Do we have to discuss of this Use Case live or on the mailing list ? the discussion will take place on the mailing list<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">Discussion around the MSISDN, discovery and privacy
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:54.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">Comparisons of MSISDN usage and email address usage. People are not reluctant to enter their email address on a RP page.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:54.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">Account chooser is mentioned as a help for the user and the RP, discussion around this tool.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">Other projects<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:54.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">Pilot in Germany occurring under OpenID Connect with major MNO, MVNO and one partner. Complexity to cope with different MNO IDM and few OIDC implementations. Discovery function could rely on
mobile-profile WG deliverables<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">MNOs as single, virtual IDP or autonomous IDPs/ Mobile phone number portability<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:54.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">If we want the task to be simple for developers, we have to consider one RP addressing one virtual MNO IdP. On the other hand, putting a kind of proxy in the chain (to mask the complexity of
different MNO IdP) will strongly complexify the scope on technical and probably legal grounds.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:54.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">John mentions account chooser as a tool to facilitate the MNO discovery<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:54.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">Questions about the software statement and its global provisioning. API back to the original statement provider ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:54.0pt"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Philippe<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span lang="EN-US">I </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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