[Openid-specs-mobile-profile] MODRNA WG @ Tue Feb 1, 2022 preliminary minutes

Tue Feb 1 17:54:32 UTC 2022

> ETSI. OIDC could be an actor in the EU wallet. A template for a liaison agreement is on the table.

Would this liaison apply to entire OIDF and all of its working groups or only to MODERNA?

Kristina
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Subject: [Openid-specs-mobile-profile] MODRNA WG @ Tue Feb 1, 2022 preliminary minutes

Dear all,
Please find below the preliminary minutes of our call on Tue Feb 1, 2022, and let me know of any error or misunderstanding.

Roll Call
Bjorn Hjelm (Verizon), Philippe Clement, Joseph Heenan (Authlete / OIDF), Martin Drewes (enabled World), Gail Hodges (OIDF)
Adoption of the Agenda [Bjorn/John]
agreed
External Organizations

  *   GSMA

No update. Trying to establish a liaison. Other possible trail is to collaborate in other working groups

  *   ETSI

OIDC could be an actor in the EU wallet. A template for a liaison agreement is on the table.
Events

  *   OIX 2022 Trust Framework Launch<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fopenidentityexchange.org%2Fnetworks%2F87%2Fevents.html%3Fid%3D4724&data=04%7C01%7Ckristina.yasuda%40microsoft.com%7Ce34ed3bc1aaf4b08a58808d9e59d6a61%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637793289060417867%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=ktDQ7qwWPmtYPxlsRSy77sXG%2BtjtPmpihtj007KHyME%3D&reserved=0>, Feb. 3, 2022
  *   OpenID Foundation Workshop Spring, Mountain View, CA, Apr. 25, 2022
  *   IIW Spring, Mountain View, CA, Apr. 26-28, 2022
  *   OAuth Security Workshop<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Foauth.secworkshop.events%2F&data=04%7C01%7Ckristina.yasuda%40microsoft.com%7Ce34ed3bc1aaf4b08a58808d9e59d6a61%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637793289060417867%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=WaeiS0Nh1LPKOwcKMeeQ0AxFNn3nnAE4WOCG9lnHhJc%3D&reserved=0>, Trondheim, Norway, May 4-6, 2022
  *   European Identity and Cloud Conference (EIC)<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kuppingercole.com%2Fevents%2Feic2022&data=04%7C01%7Ckristina.yasuda%40microsoft.com%7Ce34ed3bc1aaf4b08a58808d9e59d6a61%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637793289060417867%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=WcKuTem9fOUiwy8uEvsQbyBFzWyOZJl3YEqbGqHtXR8%3D&reserved=0>, Berlin, Germany, May 10-13, 2022
  *   RSA<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rsaconference.com%2Fusa&data=04%7C01%7Ckristina.yasuda%40microsoft.com%7Ce34ed3bc1aaf4b08a58808d9e59d6a61%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637793289060417867%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=h5lGPLpyUV5fEop0fr2Z%2F3t%2B%2FWT%2F7Pm1wNEiuwFI28s%3D&reserved=0>, San Francisco, CA, Jun. 6-9, 2022
  *   Identiverse<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fidentiverse.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7Ckristina.yasuda%40microsoft.com%7Ce34ed3bc1aaf4b08a58808d9e59d6a61%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637793289060417867%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=q4S6lqlnDswohHImBtoUg6I5ohMrh%2FBTpBmkRlDnHm4%3D&reserved=0>, Dencer, CO, Jun. 20-23, 2022

Specification Status

  *   MODRNA CIBA Profile<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fxml2rfc.tools.ietf.org%2Fcgi-bin%2Fxml2rfc.cgi%3Furl%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fbitbucket.org%2Fopenid%2Fmobile%2Fraw%2Fmaster%2Fopenid-connect-modrna-client-initiated-backchannel-authentication-profile-1_0.xml%26modeAsFormat%3Dhtml%252Fascii%26type%3Dascii%26Submit%3DSubmit&data=04%7C01%7Ckristina.yasuda%40microsoft.com%7Ce34ed3bc1aaf4b08a58808d9e59d6a61%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637793289060467882%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=MTQxdlKu5D6CJHPTf5SEsNf68T%2B6L0j9%2F8XjhFAi0FY%3D&reserved=0>

OpenID Certification<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fopenid.net%2Fcertification%2F&data=04%7C01%7Ckristina.yasuda%40microsoft.com%7Ce34ed3bc1aaf4b08a58808d9e59d6a61%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637793289060467882%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=Z3K2KfQrnRwjQKgFFqL2SU2cFkgzLi1qKPR7BOUDnQI%3D&reserved=0> for MODRNA
Contribution from MODRNA to the certification working group under investigation.

  *   Philippe: Question Hubert on available resources for moving forward certification of User Questioning API.

Issue Tracker<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbitbucket.org%2Fopenid%2Fmobile%2Fissues%3Fstatus%3Dnew%26status%3Dopen&data=04%7C01%7Ckristina.yasuda%40microsoft.com%7Ce34ed3bc1aaf4b08a58808d9e59d6a61%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637793289060467882%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=U6f3Rn5%2B0huHhkDloy7OXFWmqZn3iwnEFtzDX0%2BY52g%3D&reserved=0>

  *   FAPI Issue #466<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbitbucket.org%2Fopenid%2Ffapi%2Fissues%2F466%2Fproposal-for-fapi-dcr-dcm-dynamic-client&data=04%7C01%7Ckristina.yasuda%40microsoft.com%7Ce34ed3bc1aaf4b08a58808d9e59d6a61%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637793289060467882%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=o1AURryjM7C5uNftH1qr7WEhcbB1qeAQRPhkSYEkngg%3D&reserved=0> (DCR), #467<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbitbucket.org%2Fopenid%2Ffapi%2Fissues%2F467%2Fcan-fapi-specs-support-ecosystems-where&data=04%7C01%7Ckristina.yasuda%40microsoft.com%7Ce34ed3bc1aaf4b08a58808d9e59d6a61%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637793289060467882%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=pJYhSKL%2B6Jwu9SvtmTSWPgUEGNYJAO92Jh26esT2qjg%3D&reserved=0> (USSD)

#466: Proposal for FAPI DCR/DCM (Dynamic Client Registration/Management) profile<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbitbucket.org%2Fopenid%2Ffapi%2Fissues%2F466%2Fproposal-for-fapi-dcr-dcm-dynamic-client&data=04%7C01%7Ckristina.yasuda%40microsoft.com%7Ce34ed3bc1aaf4b08a58808d9e59d6a61%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637793289060467882%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=o1AURryjM7C5uNftH1qr7WEhcbB1qeAQRPhkSYEkngg%3D&reserved=0>
Using a software statement for client registration is envisioned by different groups. Revocation of software Statement is also under questioning. A collaboration must be envisioned for this topic

#467: Can FAPI specs support ecosystems where smart phones aren't common, e.g. by using USSD<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbitbucket.org%2Fopenid%2Ffapi%2Fissues%2F467%2Fcan-fapi-specs-support-ecosystems-where&data=04%7C01%7Ckristina.yasuda%40microsoft.com%7Ce34ed3bc1aaf4b08a58808d9e59d6a61%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637793289060467882%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=pJYhSKL%2B6Jwu9SvtmTSWPgUEGNYJAO92Jh26esT2qjg%3D&reserved=0>
Some Mobile operators use this protocol for different use cases, for example validate payments.

  *   Bjorn to start a discussion by email.

AOB
Martin joined the group regarding USSD usage, especially in Africa and security concerns.

  *   Bjorn to start a conversation by mail with Orange people.

Gail presented different options of liaison/collaboration with other bodies like GSMA, ETSI to scale adoption of OIDF standards to serve “mobile network linked” use cases. Social inclusion is also at stake regarding emerging markets using USSD.

Best regards,
Philippe

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