[Openid-specs-mobile-profile] [E] Re: MODRNA WG @ Tue Feb 1, 2022 preliminary minutes

Tue Feb 1 19:18:25 UTC 2022

Kristina,
As the Liaison is between the OpenID Foundation and ETSI, it would span all
work by the Foundation including the work on SIOP for the EU Identity
Wallet.

The reason for including the update on the MODRNA agenda was simply because
of the obvious ties (and interest) between the telecommunications community
that are represented in the MODRNA WG and ETSI.

The intent of the liaison is to further all work by the Foundation as it
applies to ETSI’s standards development.

Kind Regards,
Bjorn

On Tue, Feb 1, 2022 at 9:54 AM Kristina Yasuda <
Kristina.Yasuda at microsoft.com> wrote:

> > ETSI. OIDC could be an actor in the EU wallet. A template for a liaison
> agreement is on the table.
>
> Would this liaison apply to entire OIDF and all of its working groups or
> only to MODERNA?
>
> Kristina
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Openid-specs-mobile-profile <
> openid-specs-mobile-profile-bounces at lists.openid.net> on behalf of
> philippe.clement at orange.com <philippe.clement at orange.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 1, 2022 8:10
> *To:* bjorn.hjelm at verizonwireless.com <bjorn.hjelm at verizonwireless.com>;
> Torsten Lodderstedt <torsten at lodderstedt.net>;
> openid-specs-mobile-profile at lists.openid.net <
> openid-specs-mobile-profile at lists.openid.net>; ghazari at gsma.com <
> ghazari at gsma.com>; Dave Tonge <dave.tonge at moneyhub.com>;
> joseph.heenan at fintechlabs.io <joseph.heenan at fintechlabs.io>; Brian
> Campbell <bcampbell at pingidentity.com>
> *Subject:* [Openid-specs-mobile-profile] MODRNA WG @ Tue Feb 1, 2022
> preliminary minutes
>
> Dear all,
> Please find below the preliminary minutes of our call on Tue Feb 1, 2022,
> and let me know of any error or misunderstanding.
>
> Roll Call
> Bjorn Hjelm (Verizon), Philippe Clement, Joseph Heenan (Authlete / OIDF),
> Martin Drewes (enabled World), Gail Hodges (OIDF)
> Adoption of the Agenda [Bjorn/John]
> agreed
> External Organizations
>
>    - GSMA
>
> No update. Trying to establish a liaison. Other possible trail is to
> collaborate in other working groups
>
>    - ETSI
>
> OIDC could be an actor in the EU wallet. A template for a liaison
> agreement is on the table.
> Events
>
>    - *OIX 2022 Trust Framework Launch*
>    <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fopenidentityexchange.org-252Fnetworks-252F87-252Fevents.html-253Fid-253D4724-26data-3D04-257C01-257Ckristina.yasuda-2540microsoft.com-257Ce34ed3bc1aaf4b08a58808d9e59d6a61-257C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47-257C1-257C0-257C637793289060417867-257CUnknown-257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0-253D-257C1000-26sdata-3DktDQ7qwWPmtYPxlsRSy77sXG-252BtjtPmpihtj007KHyME-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMF-g&c=udBTRvFvXC5Dhqg7UHpJlPps3mZ3LRxpb6__0PomBTQ&r=NMZJHCV8pjvGIH2fTx9z6l7g7-V-a2xW7ISf9uHdz0A&m=tAfxqOEH5kKKk70xqDeY-m8t8G3Xldte-mQSjNv5cZotqDM2t_nAynPUdp9IHPQp&s=tmY33bQosRmiN1urWwT20AHEFPza-D_x5-CnGdcl2RM&e=>,
>    Feb. 3, 2022
>    - OpenID Foundation Workshop Spring, Mountain View, CA, Apr. 25, 2022
>    - IIW Spring, Mountain View, CA, Apr. 26-28, 2022
>    - *OAuth Security Workshop*
>    <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Foauth.secworkshop.events-252F-26data-3D04-257C01-257Ckristina.yasuda-2540microsoft.com-257Ce34ed3bc1aaf4b08a58808d9e59d6a61-257C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47-257C1-257C0-257C637793289060417867-257CUnknown-257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0-253D-257C1000-26sdata-3DWaeiS0Nh1LPKOwcKMeeQ0AxFNn3nnAE4WOCG9lnHhJc-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMF-g&c=udBTRvFvXC5Dhqg7UHpJlPps3mZ3LRxpb6__0PomBTQ&r=NMZJHCV8pjvGIH2fTx9z6l7g7-V-a2xW7ISf9uHdz0A&m=tAfxqOEH5kKKk70xqDeY-m8t8G3Xldte-mQSjNv5cZotqDM2t_nAynPUdp9IHPQp&s=Pp5vZwpm_2gVGNAi2ETfOg1WQ34xTfe0WAM4mGsNqUw&e=>,
>    Trondheim, Norway, May 4-6, 2022
>    - *European Identity and Cloud Conference (EIC)*
>    <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fwww.kuppingercole.com-252Fevents-252Feic2022-26data-3D04-257C01-257Ckristina.yasuda-2540microsoft.com-257Ce34ed3bc1aaf4b08a58808d9e59d6a61-257C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47-257C1-257C0-257C637793289060417867-257CUnknown-257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0-253D-257C1000-26sdata-3DWcKuTem9fOUiwy8uEvsQbyBFzWyOZJl3YEqbGqHtXR8-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMF-g&c=udBTRvFvXC5Dhqg7UHpJlPps3mZ3LRxpb6__0PomBTQ&r=NMZJHCV8pjvGIH2fTx9z6l7g7-V-a2xW7ISf9uHdz0A&m=tAfxqOEH5kKKk70xqDeY-m8t8G3Xldte-mQSjNv5cZotqDM2t_nAynPUdp9IHPQp&s=-1FuFDUGPaEj0xIMR-BOZgKf7Q_rDLhGWnsOJdZ3nKU&e=>,
>    Berlin, Germany, May 10-13, 2022
>    - *RSA*
>    <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fwww.rsaconference.com-252Fusa-26data-3D04-257C01-257Ckristina.yasuda-2540microsoft.com-257Ce34ed3bc1aaf4b08a58808d9e59d6a61-257C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47-257C1-257C0-257C637793289060417867-257CUnknown-257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0-253D-257C1000-26sdata-3Dh5lGPLpyUV5fEop0fr2Z-252F3t-252B-252FWT-252F7Pm1wNEiuwFI28s-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMF-g&c=udBTRvFvXC5Dhqg7UHpJlPps3mZ3LRxpb6__0PomBTQ&r=NMZJHCV8pjvGIH2fTx9z6l7g7-V-a2xW7ISf9uHdz0A&m=tAfxqOEH5kKKk70xqDeY-m8t8G3Xldte-mQSjNv5cZotqDM2t_nAynPUdp9IHPQp&s=dv4G83WFev_VRz1mN8OxFTp3-ThNSYWIfufH43zsfrI&e=>,
>    San Francisco, CA, Jun. 6-9, 2022
>    - *Identiverse*
>    <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fidentiverse.com-252F-26data-3D04-257C01-257Ckristina.yasuda-2540microsoft.com-257Ce34ed3bc1aaf4b08a58808d9e59d6a61-257C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47-257C1-257C0-257C637793289060417867-257CUnknown-257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0-253D-257C1000-26sdata-3Dq4S6lqlnDswohHImBtoUg6I5ohMrh-252FBTpBmkRlDnHm4-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMF-g&c=udBTRvFvXC5Dhqg7UHpJlPps3mZ3LRxpb6__0PomBTQ&r=NMZJHCV8pjvGIH2fTx9z6l7g7-V-a2xW7ISf9uHdz0A&m=tAfxqOEH5kKKk70xqDeY-m8t8G3Xldte-mQSjNv5cZotqDM2t_nAynPUdp9IHPQp&s=pdLAfARxOJ9XQvToFpEWMf-5tCmukLfzU32uPSBFnuc&e=>,
>    Dencer, CO, Jun. 20-23, 2022
>
> Specification Status
>
>    - *MODRNA CIBA Profile*
>    <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fxml2rfc.tools.ietf.org-252Fcgi-2Dbin-252Fxml2rfc.cgi-253Furl-253Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fbitbucket.org-252Fopenid-252Fmobile-252Fraw-252Fmaster-252Fopenid-2Dconnect-2Dmodrna-2Dclient-2Dinitiated-2Dbackchannel-2Dauthentication-2Dprofile-2D1-5F0.xml-2526modeAsFormat-253Dhtml-25252Fascii-2526type-253Dascii-2526Submit-253DSubmit-26data-3D04-257C01-257Ckristina.yasuda-2540microsoft.com-257Ce34ed3bc1aaf4b08a58808d9e59d6a61-257C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47-257C1-257C0-257C637793289060467882-257CUnknown-257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0-253D-257C1000-26sdata-3DMTQxdlKu5D6CJHPTf5SEsNf68T-252B6L0j9-252F8XjhFAi0FY-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMF-g&c=udBTRvFvXC5Dhqg7UHpJlPps3mZ3LRxpb6__0PomBTQ&r=NMZJHCV8pjvGIH2fTx9z6l7g7-V-a2xW7ISf9uHdz0A&m=tAfxqOEH5kKKk70xqDeY-m8t8G3Xldte-mQSjNv5cZotqDM2t_nAynPUdp9IHPQp&s=m38411kSo9prlFgspk34ECncnIw0IubHJ9kaChdyrls&e=>
>
> *OpenID Certification*
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fopenid.net-252Fcertification-252F-26data-3D04-257C01-257Ckristina.yasuda-2540microsoft.com-257Ce34ed3bc1aaf4b08a58808d9e59d6a61-257C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47-257C1-257C0-257C637793289060467882-257CUnknown-257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0-253D-257C1000-26sdata-3DZ3K2KfQrnRwjQKgFFqL2SU2cFkgzLi1qKPR7BOUDnQI-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMF-g&c=udBTRvFvXC5Dhqg7UHpJlPps3mZ3LRxpb6__0PomBTQ&r=NMZJHCV8pjvGIH2fTx9z6l7g7-V-a2xW7ISf9uHdz0A&m=tAfxqOEH5kKKk70xqDeY-m8t8G3Xldte-mQSjNv5cZotqDM2t_nAynPUdp9IHPQp&s=2I_KgLscozmz5j8gUwmthTPVDXe-mEuiSjvmp33YKrw&e=>
>  for MODRNA
> Contribution from MODRNA to the certification working group under
> investigation.
>
>
>    - Philippe: Question Hubert on available resources for moving forward
>    certification of User Questioning API.
>
> *Issue Tracker*
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fbitbucket.org-252Fopenid-252Fmobile-252Fissues-253Fstatus-253Dnew-2526status-253Dopen-26data-3D04-257C01-257Ckristina.yasuda-2540microsoft.com-257Ce34ed3bc1aaf4b08a58808d9e59d6a61-257C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47-257C1-257C0-257C637793289060467882-257CUnknown-257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0-253D-257C1000-26sdata-3DU6f3Rn5-252B0huHhkDloy7OXFWmqZn3iwnEFtzDX0-252BY52g-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMF-g&c=udBTRvFvXC5Dhqg7UHpJlPps3mZ3LRxpb6__0PomBTQ&r=NMZJHCV8pjvGIH2fTx9z6l7g7-V-a2xW7ISf9uHdz0A&m=tAfxqOEH5kKKk70xqDeY-m8t8G3Xldte-mQSjNv5cZotqDM2t_nAynPUdp9IHPQp&s=sitnOgVDozkUKofB6_XD-0BH047Uk_36dE7HEFueN7k&e=>
>
>    - FAPI Issue #*466*
>    <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fbitbucket.org-252Fopenid-252Ffapi-252Fissues-252F466-252Fproposal-2Dfor-2Dfapi-2Ddcr-2Ddcm-2Ddynamic-2Dclient-26data-3D04-257C01-257Ckristina.yasuda-2540microsoft.com-257Ce34ed3bc1aaf4b08a58808d9e59d6a61-257C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47-257C1-257C0-257C637793289060467882-257CUnknown-257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0-253D-257C1000-26sdata-3Do1AURryjM7C5uNftH1qr7WEhcbB1qeAQRPhkSYEkngg-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMF-g&c=udBTRvFvXC5Dhqg7UHpJlPps3mZ3LRxpb6__0PomBTQ&r=NMZJHCV8pjvGIH2fTx9z6l7g7-V-a2xW7ISf9uHdz0A&m=tAfxqOEH5kKKk70xqDeY-m8t8G3Xldte-mQSjNv5cZotqDM2t_nAynPUdp9IHPQp&s=kc5jTWOuUWS-mjsNbWjpiOfipmEiHbddIb8HqjcLAfI&e=> (DCR),
>    #*467*
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>     (USSD)
>
> *#466: Proposal for FAPI DCR/DCM (Dynamic Client Registration/Management)
> profile*
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fbitbucket.org-252Fopenid-252Ffapi-252Fissues-252F466-252Fproposal-2Dfor-2Dfapi-2Ddcr-2Ddcm-2Ddynamic-2Dclient-26data-3D04-257C01-257Ckristina.yasuda-2540microsoft.com-257Ce34ed3bc1aaf4b08a58808d9e59d6a61-257C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47-257C1-257C0-257C637793289060467882-257CUnknown-257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0-253D-257C1000-26sdata-3Do1AURryjM7C5uNftH1qr7WEhcbB1qeAQRPhkSYEkngg-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMF-g&c=udBTRvFvXC5Dhqg7UHpJlPps3mZ3LRxpb6__0PomBTQ&r=NMZJHCV8pjvGIH2fTx9z6l7g7-V-a2xW7ISf9uHdz0A&m=tAfxqOEH5kKKk70xqDeY-m8t8G3Xldte-mQSjNv5cZotqDM2t_nAynPUdp9IHPQp&s=kc5jTWOuUWS-mjsNbWjpiOfipmEiHbddIb8HqjcLAfI&e=>
> Using a software statement for client registration is envisioned by
> different groups. Revocation of software Statement is also under
> questioning. A collaboration must be envisioned for this topic
>
> *#467: Can FAPI specs support ecosystems where smart phones aren't common,
> e.g. by using USSD*
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fbitbucket.org-252Fopenid-252Ffapi-252Fissues-252F467-252Fcan-2Dfapi-2Dspecs-2Dsupport-2Decosystems-2Dwhere-26data-3D04-257C01-257Ckristina.yasuda-2540microsoft.com-257Ce34ed3bc1aaf4b08a58808d9e59d6a61-257C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47-257C1-257C0-257C637793289060467882-257CUnknown-257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0-253D-257C1000-26sdata-3DpJYhSKL-252B6Jwu9SvtmTSWPgUEGNYJAO92Jh26esT2qjg-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMF-g&c=udBTRvFvXC5Dhqg7UHpJlPps3mZ3LRxpb6__0PomBTQ&r=NMZJHCV8pjvGIH2fTx9z6l7g7-V-a2xW7ISf9uHdz0A&m=tAfxqOEH5kKKk70xqDeY-m8t8G3Xldte-mQSjNv5cZotqDM2t_nAynPUdp9IHPQp&s=yRP6gOMA_jjSBvNgZaUJjFNKQ3ZaO40930vDo08-8Bc&e=>
> Some Mobile operators use this protocol for different use cases, for
> example validate payments.
>
>    - Bjorn to start a discussion by email.
>
>
> AOB
> Martin joined the group regarding USSD usage, especially in Africa and
> security concerns.
>
>    - Bjorn to start a conversation by mail with Orange people.
>
>
> Gail presented different options of liaison/collaboration with other
> bodies like GSMA, ETSI to scale adoption of OIDF standards to serve “mobile
> network linked” use cases. Social inclusion is also at stake regarding
> emerging markets using USSD.
>
> Best regards,
> Philippe
>
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