[Openid-specs-mobile-profile] Mobile Profile parameters

GONZALO FERNANDEZ RODRIGUEZ gonzalo.fernandezrodriguez at telefonica.com
Tue Apr 7 13:49:05 UTC 2015


Hi John,

Very interesting your arguments, I fully agree.

I had a mistake with prompt and max_age because they change from Optional to Recommended, sorry!

Best,
Gonza.

De: John Bradley <ve7jtb at ve7jtb.com<mailto:ve7jtb at ve7jtb.com>>
Fecha: martes 7 de abril de 2015 15:32
Para: Gonzalo Fernandez Rodriguez <gonzalo.fernandezrodriguez at telefonica.com<mailto:gonzalo.fernandezrodriguez at telefonica.com>>
CC: "openid-specs-mobile-profile at lists.openid.net<mailto:openid-specs-mobile-profile at lists.openid.net>" <openid-specs-mobile-profile at lists.openid.net<mailto:openid-specs-mobile-profile at lists.openid.net>>
Asunto: Re: [Openid-specs-mobile-profile] Mobile Profile parameters

nonce and state are opaque to the AS and required for the AS to support now.

Forcing a client to send them may not achieve anything if the client sticks some static value in them to fulfill the spec.
Teaching clients to use them properly to protect themselves is more important.

We debated making nonce required for code, but decided that there were sufficient protections by validating the redirect_uri at the token endpoint.

max_age is probably a bad thing to force clients to send.  It will end in tears because clients will not understand what it means and cause a bad user experience.

sending prompt every-time will also have bad user experience consequences,  mostly you don't want to send it unless you really want something other than the default of prompting the user only if they need to re-auth, or not prompt,
and return an error to the client if they need to re-auth (this allows a background check in a iframe).

Forcing the client to request a acr if it is willing to take anything also seems a bit misguided.

So I would say that who ever came up with that has a limited understanding of Connect.

John B.
On Apr 7, 2015, at 1:59 AM, GONZALO FERNANDEZ RODRIGUEZ <gonzalo.fernandezrodriguez at telefonica.com<mailto:gonzalo.fernandezrodriguez at telefonica.com>> wrote:


Hi Guys,

I have been reviewing the Mobile Connect Profile doc released by the GSMA. There are some parameters in the authentication request, id_token and userinfo that have changed their use from optional to recommend or mandatory (These cases are showed in green). I don't think it is a problem to turn an optional parameter into mandatory in responses (id_token or userinfo), but I would like to highlight the cases where the spec says that the parameters are optional in the authentication request and the Mobile Profile says that they are mandatory, because I think they break the backward compatibility of the OIDC servers unless we can to differentiate the mobile profile requests from the other requests.

PARAMETER SPEC MOBILE PROFILE
-------------------        ---------------------     ------------------------
state RecommendedMandatory
nonce Recommended Mandatory
prompt Recommended Mandatory
max_age Recommended Mandatory
acr_values Recommended Mandatory

I understand that state and nonce offer and added value from the point of view of security, however I don't see the benefit of the acr_values as mandatory parameter.


Best,
Gonza.

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