[Openid-specs-ipsie] SAML and IdP Initiated federation (https://github.com/openid/ipsie/issues/100)

Dean H. Saxe dean at thesax.es
Mon Aug 4 17:49:10 UTC 2025


Following up on this item from the last IPSIE WG meeting, I created
https://github.com/openid/ipsie/issues/100.

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tl;dr; SAML based federations are highly dependent upon IdP initiated
federation flows.  A recent update to the Common Requirements doc (
https://github.com/openid/ipsie/issues/94,
https://deansaxe.github.io/draft-saxe-ipsie-common-requirements-profile/draft-saxe-ipsie-common-requirements-profile.html)
eliminates the use of IdP initiated flows.

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As a WG, we need to determine how to deal with this gap.  I see two choices:

   1.

   Move the requirement for RP initiated flows to SL2, allowing them to
   continue at SL1 for SAML implementations.
   2.

   Keep the requirement at SL1 and figure out how to device a mechanism for
   SAML that works similar to
   *https://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-core-1_0.html#ThirdPartyInitiatedLogin*
   <https://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-core-1_0.html#ThirdPartyInitiatedLogin>

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I would appreciate your thoughts on this issue either via the mailing list
or as comments on the issue.

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Thanks,

-dhs

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Dean H. Saxe

dean at thesax.es
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