<div dir="ltr">Just checking to see if there has been any progress on any input to the iGov use cases and/or further details available on the SSA implementation of OpenID Connect?<div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">BR,<div>Bjorn</div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 5:55 PM Don Thibeau <<a href="mailto:don@oidf.org">don@oidf.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div>I believe your input would be great for the iGov WG. The WG has documented
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use cases</a> that might be worth revisiting (for the SSA use case) in addition to reviewing the
<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__openid.net_specs_openid-2Digov-2Doauth2-2D1-5F0-2D03.html&d=DwMGaQ&c=udBTRvFvXC5Dhqg7UHpJlPps3mZ3LRxpb6__0PomBTQ&r=NMZJHCV8pjvGIH2fTx9z6l7g7-V-a2xW7ISf9uHdz0A&m=tfdN208Vrsnt79OqtYF2dnfz_x9ZlgkDou91aO53cl8&s=PFLZ1lcYLuyPFs8S-e2GWuMWwPhMUOn10Cq9tdFzeBA&e=" target="_blank">iGov Profile for OAuth 2.0</a> and
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iGov Profile for OpenID Connect</a> specifications.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 3:19 PM Ray Gauss <<a href="mailto:rgauss@easydynamics.com" target="_blank">rgauss@easydynamics.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Bjorn,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I was on a call last month with Don but I don’t believe you and I have talked, nice to meet you.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I’ve only been involved in the project for a few months now but understand the eCBSV OIDC technical requirements and would be very interested in becoming more involved in the iGov working group. I’ve subscribed to the list and added the
recurring meeting to my calendar.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>I’d like to go through the iGov spec in more detail and document what SSA would need to change to support it, and what from SSA’s requirements might be valuable additions to the iGov Spec in the future. I’m not
sure I’ll have the capacity to complete that before the next meeting (Jul 7) but will certainly work towards it.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, June 24, 2020 at 5:26 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Ray Gauss <<a href="mailto:rgauss@easydynamics.com" target="_blank">rgauss@easydynamics.com</a>>, "Pranav A. Kothare" <<a href="mailto:pkothare@easydynamics.com" target="_blank">pkothare@easydynamics.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>FW: [E] RE: [Openid-specs-igov] iGov and SSA eCBSV<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Bjorn Hjelm <<a href="mailto:bjorn.hjelm@verizonwireless.com" target="_blank">bjorn.hjelm@verizonwireless.com</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 23, 2020 10:49 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Maria Vachino <<a href="mailto:mvachino@easydynamics.com" target="_blank">mvachino@easydynamics.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Don Thibeau <<a href="mailto:don@oidf.org" target="_blank">don@oidf.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E] RE: [Openid-specs-igov] iGov and SSA eCBSV<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">I think this would be a great discussion topic for the iGov WG to ensure that the work within the WG aligns with the requirements.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Unfortunately, the eCBSV technical specification was not designed to conform to the iGov specification. SSA had to design their first specification around the limitations of their current product suite. However, there will be an opportunity
to revisit the implementation when SSA upgrades to a more modern stack which may be as soon as 18 months from now:
<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__etc.g2xchange.com_statics_ssa-2Drfi-2Dcustomer-2Didentity-2Dcredential-2Dand-2Daccess-2Dmanagement-2Dsolution_&d=DwMGaQ&c=udBTRvFvXC5Dhqg7UHpJlPps3mZ3LRxpb6__0PomBTQ&r=NMZJHCV8pjvGIH2fTx9z6l7g7-V-a2xW7ISf9uHdz0A&m=abH61HX2WonO4GxKF5JqoDOK6W_3UbVZ3PUsfodcmkM&s=TY0FiQupkx1mzrPNzMzABH2fsiu8KzPa_nXoAlu0jfI&e=" target="_blank">
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 23, 2020 2:40 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Maria Vachino <<a href="mailto:mvachino@easydynamics.com" target="_blank">mvachino@easydynamics.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Bjorn Hjelm <<a href="mailto:bjorn.hjelm@verizonwireless.com" target="_blank">bjorn.hjelm@verizonwireless.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Openid-specs-igov] iGov and SSA eCBSV<u></u><u></u></p>
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