<div>Hi all,</div><div><br></div><div>Fully support comments from John and Justin re VoT. </div><div><br></div><div>VoT as a separate claim gets my vote. </div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div><br></div><div>A</div><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Fri, 24 Feb 2017 at 22:59, John Bradley via Openid-specs-igov <<a href="mailto:openid-specs-igov@lists.openid.net">openid-specs-igov@lists.openid.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="gmail_msg">We should keep them separate. It is cleaner to have a new claim for vot.<div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg">John B.</div></div><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><blockquote type="cite" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg">On Feb 24, 2017, at 6:47 PM, Grassi, Paul A. (Fed) via Openid-specs-igov <<a href="mailto:openid-specs-igov@lists.openid.net" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">openid-specs-igov@lists.openid.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_-5816700336484007469Apple-interchange-newline gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_-5816700336484007469WordSection1 gmail_msg" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri" class="gmail_msg">I’m a +1. I’ll wait the weekend for any dissenters before moving forward.<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri" class="gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u> <u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></div><div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-color:rgb(181,196,223);border-top-width:1pt;padding:3pt 0in 0in" class="gmail_msg"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'" class="gmail_msg"><b class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-family:Calibri" class="gmail_msg">From:<span class="m_-5816700336484007469Apple-converted-space gmail_msg"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family:Calibri" class="gmail_msg">Justin Richer <<a href="mailto:jricher@mit.edu" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">jricher@mit.edu</a>><br class="gmail_msg"><b class="gmail_msg">Date:<span class="m_-5816700336484007469Apple-converted-space gmail_msg"> </span></b>Friday, February 24, 2017 at 4:27 PM<br class="gmail_msg"><b class="gmail_msg">To:<span class="m_-5816700336484007469Apple-converted-space gmail_msg"> </span></b>"Grassi, Paul A. (Fed)" <<a href="mailto:paul.grassi@nist.gov" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">paul.grassi@nist.gov</a>><br class="gmail_msg"><b class="gmail_msg">Cc:<span class="m_-5816700336484007469Apple-converted-space gmail_msg"> </span></b>Openid-specs-igov <<a href="mailto:openid-specs-igov@lists.openid.net" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">openid-specs-igov@lists.openid.net</a>><br class="gmail_msg"><b class="gmail_msg">Subject:<span class="m_-5816700336484007469Apple-converted-space gmail_msg"> </span></b>Re: [Openid-specs-igov] VOT<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></div></div><div class="gmail_msg"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'" class="gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u> <u class="gmail_msg"></u></div></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'" class="gmail_msg">VoT intends it to be in as a new claim, “vot”, along with a grounding URL for the vector definitions, “vtr". ACR is meant to be a single value, and it’s not a great fit for the VoT structure in my opinion.<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></div><div class="gmail_msg"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'" class="gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u> <u class="gmail_msg"></u></div></div><div class="gmail_msg"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'" class="gmail_msg"> — Justin<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></div></div><div class="gmail_msg"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'" class="gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u> <u class="gmail_msg"></u></div><div class="gmail_msg"><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt" type="cite" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'" class="gmail_msg">On Feb 24, 2017, at 3:28 PM, Grassi, Paul A. (Fed) via Openid-specs-igov <<a href="mailto:openid-specs-igov@lists.openid.net" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">openid-specs-igov@lists.openid.net</a>> wrote:<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></div></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'" class="gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u> <u class="gmail_msg"></u></div><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'" class="gmail_msg">Per our last meeting I am making many edits (to include some reformatting to look like HEART). In terms of VOT, do we want it as a new claim or embedded within ACR?<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></div><div class="gmail_msg"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'" class="gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u> <u class="gmail_msg"></u></div></div><div class="gmail_msg"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'" class="gmail_msg">VOT has the following example <a href="https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-richer-vectors-of-trust-04#section-4.2" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-richer-vectors-of-trust-04#section-4.2</a>.<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></div></div><div class="gmail_msg"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'" class="gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u> <u class="gmail_msg"></u></div></div><div class="gmail_msg"><div style="margin:0in 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