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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Everyone<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Circling back around to put this a the top of your inbox after the March conference circuit. Below is an [old school] doodle poll for next couple of weeks. I will limit my presentation to 10 minutes or – in hope others may share/present.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/QbYPXq2a">https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/QbYPXq2a</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">-Debbie<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Adrian Gropper <agropper@healthurl.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, March 2, 2022 at 11:36 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Debbie Bucci <debbucci@gmail.com><br>
<b>Cc: </b>HEART List <openid-specs-heart@lists.openid.net><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Openid-specs-heart] Health profile/protocols - comparison<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Debbie,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It's definitely time to catch up. I've been focused on W3C identifier and verifiable credential standards data models and their relationship to the emerging GNAP protocol. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- Adrian<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Mar 2, 2022 at 11:24 AM Nancy Lush <<a href="mailto:nlush@lgisoftware.com">nlush@lgisoftware.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thanks Debbie. We are on board and have been working towards that same goal as Eve mentioned.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">This email was blocked by open-id when I tried to change my send email.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">FYI, my new email is nlush@patientCentricSolutions.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thanks, Nancy<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>From:</b> Nancy Lush <<a href="mailto:nlush@patientcentricsolutions.com" target="_blank">nlush@patientcentricsolutions.com</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 2, 2022 9:32 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Debbie Bucci' <<a href="mailto:debbucci@gmail.com" target="_blank">debbucci@gmail.com</a>>; 'Eve Maler' <<a href="mailto:eve.maler@forgerock.com" target="_blank">eve.maler@forgerock.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> '<a href="mailto:openid-specs-heart@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-specs-heart@lists.openid.net</a>' <<a href="mailto:openid-specs-heart@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-specs-heart@lists.openid.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Openid-specs-heart] Health profile/protocols - comparison<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thanks Debbie. We are on board and have been working towards that same goal as Eve mentioned.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">If you could copy my on this email address that would be helpful.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thanks much,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">-Nancy<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Debbie Bucci<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 2, 2022 8:45 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Eve Maler <<a href="mailto:eve.maler@forgerock.com" target="_blank">eve.maler@forgerock.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:openid-specs-heart@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-specs-heart@lists.openid.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Openid-specs-heart] Health profile/protocols - comparison<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Awesome that would be great! Thanks so much … Yes while I do not actively participate in UMA proper – I do follow along on the list.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I am thinking latter part of March would be good timing – a few weeks out. Maybe I set up a poll or something for potential dates.<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></b><span style="color:black">Eve Maler <<a href="mailto:eve.maler@forgerock.com" target="_blank">eve.maler@forgerock.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, March 2, 2022 at 8:19 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Debbie Bucci <<a href="mailto:debbucci@gmail.com" target="_blank">debbucci@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:openid-specs-heart@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-specs-heart@lists.openid.net</a> <<a href="mailto:openid-specs-heart@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-specs-heart@lists.openid.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Openid-specs-heart] Health profile/protocols - comparison</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hi Debbie and all — thanks for starting this dialogue!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt">Over in the UMA group we have been working on a short paper that illustrates how UMA addresses key use cases coming out of PP2PI, enhancing what is possible with OAuth alone (HEART is
mentioned). Should have a complete draft ready this week. And the UMA WG is also planning to meet with some folks representing UDAP this week to capture our mutual understanding of how they are complementary. Happy to share all this, and I’d love to learn
about your findings.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><strong><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Eve Maler</span></strong><br>
CTO | ForgeRock<br>
mobile +1 425 345 6756<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><a href="https://www.forgerock.com/" target="_blank">www.forgerock.com</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt">On Mar 2, 2022, at 7:10 AM, Debbie Bucci <<a href="mailto:debbucci@gmail.com" target="_blank">debbucci@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hello everyone<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">The purpose of this note is to start a dialog on behalf of the Open ID Foundation. There is a strong desire on the Foundation’s part to better understand the Health sector problem
space and raise awareness about the OpenID profiles that have gained wide acceptance/ traction that may benefit . Primary focus is on the FAPI family of profiles in particular – but there may be others as well (dare I mention SIOP?) . In addition to raising
awareness , gaps may be identified in the exiting OIDF profiles. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">The HEART WG realized early on - the conversation is much broader than that a focus on OpenID Connect alone. As a precursor to the dialog, I am working on a comparison checklist
of sort of the various profiles (FAPI , SMART, HEART UDAP, GNAP, Argonaut 2.0 , IHE etc. ) with a focus on Identity, Authentication, Authorization, Consent, Delegation. This forum seems like a good place to present my findings to date. Ideally, I’d like
to organize a HEART WG listening session or two to not just discuss this work but also give the opportunity to others that may like to share activities/lessons learn If you are interested in presenting, please let me know.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Best Regards
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