<div style="white-space:pre-wrap">I wasn't taking notes but I found the structiring of the work in terms of Q1-6 very helpful.<br><br>Q1 - do we need to profile standard friendly names for resources?<br>Q2 - <br>Q3 - do we need to profile patient metadata obfuscation methods?<br>Q4 - are there any ways to verify claims other than A, B, C? (A=AS verified, B=RS verified, C=federation verified)<br>Q5 - <br>Q6 - do we need to profile the semantics for claims?<br><br>Can anyone remember Q2 and Q5?<br><br>Adrian</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 5:00 PM Sarah Squire <<a href="mailto:sarah@engageidentity.com">sarah@engageidentity.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><span id="m_-2901225692827560461gmail-docs-internal-guid-707275fe-acf2-6ca1-2ac9-cc7423588fe1" class="gmail_msg"><p style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;font-family:arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap" class="gmail_msg">Light notes this week since we mostly walked through the use case that Eve and Nancy have been working on which will be sent out to the list shortly.</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;font-family:arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap" class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;font-family:arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap" class="gmail_msg">Attending:</span></p><div dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;font-family:arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap" class="gmail_msg">Debbie Bucci</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;font-family:arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap" class="gmail_msg">Adrian Gropper</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;font-family:arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap" class="gmail_msg">Celestin Bitjonck</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;font-family:arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap" class="gmail_msg">Edmund Jay</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;font-family:arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap" class="gmail_msg">Eve Maler</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;font-family:arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap" class="gmail_msg">Glen Marshall</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;font-family:arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap" class="gmail_msg">Jim Kragh</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;font-family:arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap" class="gmail_msg">Jin Wen</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;font-family:arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap" class="gmail_msg">Luis Maas</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;font-family:arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap" class="gmail_msg">Nancy Lush</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;font-family:arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap" class="gmail_msg">Sarah Squire</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;font-family:arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap" class="gmail_msg">Scott Shorter</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;font-family:arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap" class="gmail_msg">Thomas Sullivan</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;font-family:arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap" class="gmail_msg">Walter Kirk</span></p><div dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;font-family:arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap" class="gmail_msg">Eve:</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;font-family:arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap" class="gmail_msg">We’ve been winnowing down the resources we think people should focus on. We want to help people think with the lens of UMA. We might want to profile what normal people would say in natural English. So “medicines I take” might be friendlier than “current medications”</span></p><div dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;font-family:arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap" class="gmail_msg">Adrian:</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;font-family:arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap" class="gmail_msg">So we’re saying that our goal is that two RSs would describe the same words to describe a resource?</span></p><div dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;font-family:arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap" class="gmail_msg">Eve:</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;font-family:arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap" class="gmail_msg">We should decide whether or not to standardize that.</span></p><div dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;font-family:arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap" class="gmail_msg">Glen:</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;font-family:arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap" class="gmail_msg">Well, this might not be as straightforward as you might think to map these to FHIR resources.</span></p><div dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;font-family:arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap" class="gmail_msg">Adrian:</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;font-family:arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap" class="gmail_msg">Is it allowed for a server to list the FHIR resource itself? Rather than the friendly name?</span></p><div dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:14.6667px;font-family:arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-s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