<div dir="ltr">Adrian, I thus will expect zero comments from you.. no problem, that is your choice.<div><br></div><div>If others want to comment, they are also free to comment.</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">John Moehrke<br>Principal Engineering Architect: Standards - Interoperability, Privacy, and Security<br>CyberPrivacy – Enabling authorized communications while respecting Privacy<br>M +1 920-564-2067<br><a href="mailto:JohnMoehrke@gmail.com" target="_blank">JohnMoehrke@gmail.com</a><br><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnmoehrke" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnmoehrke</a><br><a href="https://healthcaresecprivacy.blogspot.com" target="_blank">https://healthcaresecprivacy.blogspot.com</a><br>"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" ("Who watches the watchers?")</div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Adrian Gropper <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:agropper@healthurl.com" target="_blank">agropper@healthurl.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Can anyone answer any of my questions? <div><br></div><div>I maintain that Consent Directives have nothing to do with HEART and I have seen no indication to the contrary.</div><div><br></div><div>I agree that the Security workgroup should be important to HEART. Is Security responsible for the Consent Directive work?</div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div></font></span><div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">Adrian</font></span><div><div class="h5"><br><br>On Monday, August 15, 2016, Glen Marshall [SRS] <<a href="mailto:gfm@securityrs.com" target="_blank">gfm@securityrs.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">





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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">The FHIR Consent Directive resource has been a topic in the HEART discussions, so I assume it is germane.  Also, if HEART wants to influence HL7, re: UMA scopes, working with the Security
 workgroup is the route of entry.  <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Since FHIR is an API data model, not an implementation, I will not speculate about implementation matters.  That is best addressed by working directly with other HL7 participants, e.g., by
 submitting ballot comments and working to resolve them, submitting Change Proposals to the FHIR specification, writing and balloting implementation guides, etc.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">FHIR also has to work with other endpoints, e.g., outpatient pharmacy, radiological services, various adjunct therapies, portable & wearable devices, etc.  There are standards workgroups
 for all of them, so they need to be engaged.  <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Glen      <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Glen F. Marshall<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Security Risk Solutions, Inc.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">698 Fishermans Bend<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Mount Pleasant, SC 29464<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Tel: <a href="tel:%28610%29%20644-2452" value="+16106442452" target="_blank">(610) 644-2452</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><a>gfm@securityrs.com</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <a>agropper@gmail.com</a> [mailto:<a>agropper@gmail.com</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Adrian Gropper<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 15, 2016 11:47<br>
<b>To:</b> Glen Marshall [SRS] <<a>gfm@securityrs.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> HEART List (<a>openid-specs-heart@lists.open<wbr>id.net</a>) <<a>openid-specs-heart@lists.open<wbr>id.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Openid-specs-heart] HL7 Ballot<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Right now, for example, we're trying to work on resources and scopes. What aspect of the Consent Directive should or would influence our work on resources and scopes?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 10:54 AM, Glen Marshall [SRS] <<a>gfm@securityrs.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">If any of you have signed-up for the upcoming HL7 ballot, please closely review the FHIR Consent Directive and make comments on
 it.  This will help HEART to influence to outcomes.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">The next HL7 ballot is in January.  After the September HL7 meeting, HEART participants have an opportunity to work directly with
 the HL7 CBCC and Security workgroups on the September ballot comment resolutions and to help create new HEART-aligned content for the January ballot.  Of course our own work needs to be in proper shape for alignment with other health SDOs, and I hope we can
 hit the HL7 timeframe target.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Best,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Glen F. Marshall</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Consultant</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Security Risk Solutions, Inc.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">698 Fishermans Bend</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Mount Pleasant, SC 29464</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Tel:
<a href="tel:%28610%29%20644-2452" target="_blank">(610) 644-2452</a> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Mobile:
<a href="tel:%28610%29%20613-3084" target="_blank">(610) 613-3084</a></span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><a>gfm@securityrs.com</a></span><u></u><u></u></p>
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