[Openid-specs-heart] {Openid-specs-heart] scope of work

Debbie Bucci debbucci at gmail.com
Wed Apr 29 18:55:01 UTC 2020


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From: Debbie Bucci <debbucci at gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Openid-specs-heart] scope of work
To: Tom Jones <thomasclinganjones at gmail.com>


Tom

Have you spent time on the HEART WG website?  We have listed a number of
use cases that have yet to be resolved.  Hesitant to start from scratch.
I am personally interested in FAPI because of its much more secure , has
production traction for read and write transactions.    HEART was
criticized for being too tough to implement yet the open banking
regulations helped move the FAPI work along.

A request for data has an associated token from the user in advance -
existing implementation have defaulted to a broad yes/no because of the
work to permit such fine grain access.



On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 2:47 PM Tom Jones <thomasclinganjones at gmail.com>
wrote:

> First - i fundamentally agree with Justin's request that HEART needs to
> find a purpose that aligns with the needs of the market - His assertion was
> more of the type that HEART got no tracktion the last time around.
> There are two way to approach this:
> 1. find a business purpose
> 2. find a set of appropriate use cases with problems that need to be
> solved.
> I would recommend #2 - lets build use cases based on needs.
> I have started a potential list of use cases that could be a starting
> point.
> I am strongly opposed to the current approach of looking at
> solutions (FAPI, UMA, whatever) before we understand what value we can
> contribute.
>
> wrt Justin's proposal on TXAUTH to HEART - i note one missing element -
> specifically  how does the requesting site tell the sending site what data
> they want in a manner that permits the user to accept or request the
> request. I do not believe that a list of FHIR data elements is something
> that the user could evaluate. If we want to put the user in control, we
> must provide the user a choice that they can understand. I can share the
> Kantara doc on patient choice if that is desired. TXAuth does not currently
> do that, but could be adapted to do it.
>
> Peace ..tom
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