[Openid-specs-heart] HEART WG MEETING Monday March 23

Sun Mar 15 17:53:28 UTC 2020

Yes that is what Eve clarified ...

On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 1:50 PM Tom Jones <thomasclinganjones at gmail.com>
wrote:

> i could do April 6, but i would suggest that if you want to make quick
> progress you would continue with 3/23 and add 4/6 as a second meeting.
> Peace ..tom
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 10:03 AM Debbie Bucci <debbucci at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> How does April 6th sound ?  That is next avail date on our/ cochair
>> calendar.    How about others that may present ....Tom Adrian Steinar
>> Nancy?
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 12:53 PM Debbie Bucci <debbucci at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Working on Toms access here is his earlier po
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>> From: Tom Jones <thomasclinganjones at gmail.com>
>>> Date: Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 11:11 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Openid-specs-heart] HEART WG MEETING Monday March 23
>>> To: Justin Richer <jricher at mit.edu>
>>> CC: Debbie Bucci <debbucci at gmail.com>, <
>>> openid-specs-heart at lists.openid.net>
>>>
>>>
>>> How is this different from the xauth proposal from dick hardt. It seems
>>> like w3c did and dif- com are working on solutions as well. I guess we have
>>> a whole alphabet soup of competing solutions to pick from.
>>>
>>> thx ..Tom (mobile)
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 15, 2020, 7:33 AM Justin Richer <jricher at mit.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> With the IETF107 meeting cancelled and virtual meetings scheduled, I
>>>> had hope that the conflict would no longer be the case, but unfortunately
>>>> this proposed meeting is exactly during the TxAuth virtual session now. As
>>>> many of you know, TxAuth is a newly proposed working group in the IETF
>>>> where I’m submitting the work I’ve been doing on XYZ (
>>>> https://oauth.xyz/) that incorporates a lot of things from OAuth,
>>>> OIDC, UMA, and their extensions into a simpler, more comprehensive
>>>> protocol. This might one day turn into OAuth 3, but that’s far in the
>>>> future if it happens. I do encourage everyone to follow along with the
>>>> TXAuth mailing list in the IETF and hopefully join the working group when
>>>> it comes online.
>>>>
>>>>  — Justin
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 6, 2020, at 1:13 PM, Debbie Bucci <debbucci at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello All
>>>>
>>>> My apologies I thought I posted this to the list
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you have something to present (encouraged!) please let use know and
>>>> we will generate a new agenda to accommodate.
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>> From: Adrian Gropper <agropper at healthurl.com>
>>>> Date: Thu, Mar 5, 2020, 11:10 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Openid-specs-heart] HEART WG MEETING Monday March 23
>>>> To: Debbie Bucci <debbucci at gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes. I would like to present the Separation of Concerns work that is
>>>> defining the overlap between IETF Oauth3 / transactional authorization and
>>>> the SSI standards work. Justin and I are currently the only ones with a
>>>> foot in both camps (UMA and SSI). That’s why I would prefer he be present
>>>> but I can do my best anyway.
>>>>
>>>> I can also talk about HIE of One Trustee as the implementation of the
>>>> current state of the art in these two camps, of course.
>>>>
>>>> - Adrian
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 10:48 AM Debbie Bucci <debbucci at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Adrian
>>>>>
>>>>> Agree it would be great if Justin were there as well but scheduling is
>>>>> tight on my end.   Hesitant to push out much further.  If we agree there is
>>>>> a path forward then we can discuss an alternate time that does not conflict
>>>>> with other schedules and time zone.
>>>>>
>>>>> Starting a list .... we have 90 minutes.  We could dedicate a good
>>>>> portion of that time for presentations,  would you like to present
>>>>> something?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 9:48 AM Adrian Gropper <agropper at healthurl.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Justin, IMHO, is essential for this meeting. I suggest we reschedule.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Adrian
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 9:41 AM Justin Richer <jricher at mit.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unfortunately, this time conflicts with the OAuth working group
>>>>>>> meeting at IETF107 in Vancouver. As a consequence, I won’t be able to make
>>>>>>> it, as much as I’d like to.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  — Justin
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 4:20 PM, Debbie Bucci <debbucci at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi everybody,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We are convening a 90-minute HEART meeting on March 23 from 4:00pm
>>>>>>> Eastern time (our traditional start time) to gather and discuss possible
>>>>>>> paths forward for the group.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    - When: 1 PM PST/4 PM EST
>>>>>>>    - Duration: 1.5 hrs
>>>>>>>    -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    Where: Gotomeeting  –
>>>>>>>    https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/785234357
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After our specifications were approved as Implementer's Drafts, our
>>>>>>> Working Group went into a holding pattern for a little while to see what
>>>>>>> implementation experience would tell us.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Over the last couple of months, we, the co-chairs, have been
>>>>>>> approached by a number of people interested in the HEART profiles and/or
>>>>>>> hoping to extend the work we have done to date.   We believe it may be an
>>>>>>> opportune time for a discussion of where to go from here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We have been approached about the following discussion points/areas
>>>>>>> of focus.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    - Hear from and potentially incorporate work that has been done
>>>>>>>    to support healthcare in other countries and from the Open Banking
>>>>>>>    community.
>>>>>>>    - Promoting the use of OpenID Connect/OAUTH2 Discovery.
>>>>>>>    - Define `fhir_url` in Discovery and perhaps other endpoints.
>>>>>>>    - Provide guidance for the use of Dynamic Client Registration.
>>>>>>>    - Update the profiles to codify how IAL/AAL/FAL are transmitted
>>>>>>>    in the id_token.
>>>>>>>    - Fine-grained OAuth extensions – leveraging updated OAuth* work
>>>>>>>    such as RAR/PAR.
>>>>>>>    - Incorporating Decentralized Identity.
>>>>>>>    - Providing guidance on how to choose FHIR Resource type
>>>>>>>    patterns.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I assume those that have reached out to us are also following along
>>>>>>> on the list. We hope you or someone on your team(s) will join us.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Comments/updates to the list of discussion points are appreciated.
>>>>>>>
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