[Openid-specs-heart] HEART WG MEETING Monday March 23

Sun Mar 15 17:02:48 UTC 2020

How does April 6th sound ?  That is next avail date on our/ cochair
calendar.    How about others that may present ....Tom Adrian Steinar
Nancy?

On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 12:53 PM Debbie Bucci <debbucci at gmail.com> wrote:

> Working on Toms access here is his earlier po
>
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> From: Tom Jones <thomasclinganjones at gmail.com>
> Date: Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 11:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [Openid-specs-heart] HEART WG MEETING Monday March 23
> To: Justin Richer <jricher at mit.edu>
> CC: Debbie Bucci <debbucci at gmail.com>, <
> openid-specs-heart at lists.openid.net>
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>
> How is this different from the xauth proposal from dick hardt. It seems
> like w3c did and dif- com are working on solutions as well. I guess we have
> a whole alphabet soup of competing solutions to pick from.
>
> thx ..Tom (mobile)
>
> On Sun, Mar 15, 2020, 7:33 AM Justin Richer <jricher at mit.edu> wrote:
>
>> With the IETF107 meeting cancelled and virtual meetings scheduled, I had
>> hope that the conflict would no longer be the case, but unfortunately this
>> proposed meeting is exactly during the TxAuth virtual session now. As many
>> of you know, TxAuth is a newly proposed working group in the IETF where I’m
>> submitting the work I’ve been doing on XYZ (https://oauth.xyz/) that
>> incorporates a lot of things from OAuth, OIDC, UMA, and their extensions
>> into a simpler, more comprehensive protocol. This might one day turn into
>> OAuth 3, but that’s far in the future if it happens. I do encourage
>> everyone to follow along with the TXAuth mailing list in the IETF and
>> hopefully join the working group when it comes online.
>>
>>  — Justin
>>
>> On Mar 6, 2020, at 1:13 PM, Debbie Bucci <debbucci at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello All
>>
>> My apologies I thought I posted this to the list
>>
>>
>> If you have something to present (encouraged!) please let use know and
>> we will generate a new agenda to accommodate.
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> From: Adrian Gropper <agropper at healthurl.com>
>> Date: Thu, Mar 5, 2020, 11:10 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Openid-specs-heart] HEART WG MEETING Monday March 23
>> To: Debbie Bucci <debbucci at gmail.com>
>>
>>
>> Yes. I would like to present the Separation of Concerns work that is
>> defining the overlap between IETF Oauth3 / transactional authorization and
>> the SSI standards work. Justin and I are currently the only ones with a
>> foot in both camps (UMA and SSI). That’s why I would prefer he be present
>> but I can do my best anyway.
>>
>> I can also talk about HIE of One Trustee as the implementation of the
>> current state of the art in these two camps, of course.
>>
>> - Adrian
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 10:48 AM Debbie Bucci <debbucci at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Adrian
>>>
>>> Agree it would be great if Justin were there as well but scheduling is
>>> tight on my end.   Hesitant to push out much further.  If we agree there is
>>> a path forward then we can discuss an alternate time that does not conflict
>>> with other schedules and time zone.
>>>
>>> Starting a list .... we have 90 minutes.  We could dedicate a good
>>> portion of that time for presentations,  would you like to present
>>> something?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 9:48 AM Adrian Gropper <agropper at healthurl.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Justin, IMHO, is essential for this meeting. I suggest we reschedule.
>>>>
>>>> - Adrian
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 9:41 AM Justin Richer <jricher at mit.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately, this time conflicts with the OAuth working group
>>>>> meeting at IETF107 in Vancouver. As a consequence, I won’t be able to make
>>>>> it, as much as I’d like to.
>>>>>
>>>>>  — Justin
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 4:20 PM, Debbie Bucci <debbucci at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi everybody,
>>>>>
>>>>> We are convening a 90-minute HEART meeting on March 23 from 4:00pm
>>>>> Eastern time (our traditional start time) to gather and discuss possible
>>>>> paths forward for the group.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    - When: 1 PM PST/4 PM EST
>>>>>    - Duration: 1.5 hrs
>>>>>    -
>>>>>
>>>>>    Where: Gotomeeting  – https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/785234357
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> After our specifications were approved as Implementer's Drafts, our
>>>>> Working Group went into a holding pattern for a little while to see what
>>>>> implementation experience would tell us.
>>>>>
>>>>> Over the last couple of months, we, the co-chairs, have been
>>>>> approached by a number of people interested in the HEART profiles and/or
>>>>> hoping to extend the work we have done to date.   We believe it may be an
>>>>> opportune time for a discussion of where to go from here.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We have been approached about the following discussion points/areas of
>>>>> focus.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    - Hear from and potentially incorporate work that has been done to
>>>>>    support healthcare in other countries and from the Open Banking community.
>>>>>    - Promoting the use of OpenID Connect/OAUTH2 Discovery.
>>>>>    - Define `fhir_url` in Discovery and perhaps other endpoints.
>>>>>    - Provide guidance for the use of Dynamic Client Registration.
>>>>>    - Update the profiles to codify how IAL/AAL/FAL are transmitted in
>>>>>    the id_token.
>>>>>    - Fine-grained OAuth extensions – leveraging updated OAuth* work
>>>>>    such as RAR/PAR.
>>>>>    - Incorporating Decentralized Identity.
>>>>>    - Providing guidance on how to choose FHIR Resource type patterns.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I assume those that have reached out to us are also following along on
>>>>> the list. We hope you or someone on your team(s) will join us.
>>>>>
>>>>> Comments/updates to the list of discussion points are appreciated.
>>>>>
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