[Openid-specs-heart] Dissecting the Release of information form

Nancy Lush nlush at lgisoftware.com
Tue Jul 19 13:32:35 UTC 2016


I was only peripherally aware of virtual clipboard prior to yesterday’s meeting.  From my reading last night virtual clipboard seems to focus on a subset of resources.  I would hope that HEART would be supporting at least the FHIR resource sets that have been implemented and already in production for some servers.

 

I thought the next step was to expand the use cases, incorporating our thoughts on consent using the confidentiality codes.  I suspect issues will arise from that exercise without complicating it in advance.

 

-Nancy

 

 

From: Openid-specs-heart [mailto:openid-specs-heart-bounces at lists.openid.net] On Behalf Of Debbie Bucci
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 7:11 AM
To: Sarah Squire <sarah at engageidentity.com>
Cc: openid-specs-heart at lists.openid.net
Subject: Re: [Openid-specs-heart] Dissecting the Release of information form

 

Well... when thinking about the virtual clipboard vs real world .. I am usually presented with at least 3 or 4 documents ... the laundry list info insurance meds allergies etc. Consent for treatment, Privacy Notice and if referred with no info in hand the release of information.

Seems to me that rpt is essentially an authorization for release. 

Adrian asked that we consider roi as part of the discussion....I think he may be right.

Eves doc was broad and I thought the next step was to drill down to soecifics.  If we have agreed a virtual clipboard resource set makes sense that needs to be added.  

Specifically from the ROI - John Moerke mentioned date range of treatment - that's one and this form opts in  sensitive info.... so I think ... the CFR 42 part 2 stuff ( +genomics) may need a specific scope for authorization to release.

Auditing needs to peripherally be considered as well imo

On Jul 19, 2016 6:56 AM, "Sarah Squire" <sarah at engageidentity.com <mailto:sarah at engageidentity.com> > wrote:

Hi all,

 

This is the use case that Eve has been hashing out on the call for a few weeks now: https://bitbucket.org/openid/heart/wiki/Alice_Shares_with_Physicians_and_Others_UMA_FHIR

 

Is there anything specifically added by the NYP form that has not already been covered?

 

Sarah




Sarah Squire

Engage Identity

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On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 5:43 AM, Adrian Gropper <agropper at healthurl.com <mailto:agropper at healthurl.com> > wrote:

Debbie,

In case it's not on the HEART servers, I've put a copy of the NYP Authorization Form here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8909568/NYP%20authorization.pdf

 

Mapping the NYP Authorization Form to actual UMA protocol is way above my pay grade. Here's as far as I get (inline):


In the case of Alice authorizing  Dr. Bob:

 

 

*	Alice is the Resource Owner [Yes. Notice that we have to handle the case where Alice has a Representative sign for her as at the bottom of the form]

*	The requested resource set  - is the protected resource. [Someone else needs to propose the mapping to standards] 

*	The resource set would need to have date range. 
*	Form indicates that release of sensitive information is explicitly OPT-IN so a confidentiality code of V (very sensitive) would not release HIV-AIDS/Mental Health/Genetics/Substance Abuse unless explicitly asked for (as a scope?).

*	Can the Authorization server sign the RPT(ROI) on behalf of Alice? [Yes. That's the whole point of UMA and HEART as far as I can tell.]
*	Probably good hygiene to recommend that claims re: Bob's medical affiliation be recorded as part of the audit or consent receipt if unable to include as part of RPT process. [Maybe but it seems peripheral.]

It's important to note that this form is labeled by NYP as an "authorization" and represents UMA Phase 2 where Dr. Bob is on the scene. Whoever proposes a mapping to standards needs to also deal with UMA Phase 1 where Alice or her representative tells NYP the address of her UMA Authorization Server. This happens before Bob is on the scene and is what I would call "consent".

For the purpose of HEART, could we call UMA Phase 1 consent and UMA Phase 2 authorization?

 

Adrian 

 


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