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<p class="MsoNormal">In support of Mike, - Acknowledging where this spec came from with “financial-grade” really ticks all the boxes for me. +1<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">FAPI is everywhere in the OB specs (obviously) and there would be a live ecosystem impact to change all references.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Openid-specs-fapi <openid-specs-fapi-bounces@lists.openid.net> on behalf of n-sakimura via Openid-specs-fapi <openid-specs-fapi@lists.openid.net><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>Financial API Working Group List <openid-specs-fapi@lists.openid.net><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, 16 May 2018 at 14:14<br>
<b>To: </b>Financial API Working Group List <openid-specs-fapi@lists.openid.net><br>
<b>Cc: </b>n-sakimura <n-sakimura@nri.co.jp><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Openid-specs-fapi] Renaming FAPI<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">And it tells people that it is a high security profile that is usable for Financial transactions and interoperable.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="color:black"> Openid-specs-fapi <openid-specs-fapi-bounces@lists.openid.net> on behalf
of Mike Jones via Openid-specs-fapi <openid-specs-fapi@lists.openid.net><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 16, 2018 12:32:06 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Financial API Working Group List<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Mike Jones<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Openid-specs-fapi] Renaming FAPI</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="color:#002060">I really like Financial-grade API. It acknowledges the original use case, keeps the acronym (which will prevent breaking spec changes, since the acronym appears in
data structures), and makes it clear that it is applicable beyond just the financial sector.</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="color:#002060"> -- Mike</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><b>From:</b> Openid-specs-fapi <openid-specs-fapi-bounces@lists.openid.net>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Nat Sakimura via Openid-specs-fapi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 16, 2018 8:37 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Financial API Working Group List <openid-specs-fapi@lists.openid.net>; Financial API Working Group List <openid-specs-fapi@lists.openid.net><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Nat Sakimura <nat@sakimura.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Openid-specs-fapi] Renaming FAPI<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">It kind of works as it is a variation of "Carrier grade".
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Advantages of this name: :
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">- It is descriptive.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">- It protects the investments on the acronym "FAPI".
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 6:28 AM +0200, "Tatsuo Kudo via Openid-specs-fapi" <</span><a href="mailto:openid-specs-fapi@lists.openid.net" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">openid-specs-fapi@lists.openid.net</span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">My intention is that the “-grade” suffix implies a level of protection. Everybody can utilize the spec to achieve telco-grade, healthcare-grade etc. while it is originally based on requirements
from financial services industry.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">Tatsuo. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">2018/05/16 13:03</span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"MS Gothic"">、</span>Mike Schwartz via Openid-specs-fapi <</span><a href="mailto:openid-specs-fapi@lists.openid.net"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">openid-specs-fapi@lists.openid.net</span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"MS Gothic"">のメール</span>:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">The whole point of the name change is that the profile is not limited to finance. So does this accomplish that?<br>
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On 2018-05-15 23:00, Phil Hunt via Openid-specs-fapi wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Name changes cause a lot of confusion. This opens the door but keeps<br>
the acronym.<br>
Phil<br>
On May 15, 2018, at 8:40 PM, Tatsuo Kudo via Openid-specs-fapi<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">It might be late but how about:<br>
Financial-grade Access Protection Interoperability (FAPI)<br>
Tatsuo.<br>
2018/04/11 0:58</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"MS Gothic"">、</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">Phil
Hunt via Openid-specs-fapi<br>
<</span></span><a href="mailto:openid-specs-fapi@lists.openid.net"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">openid-specs-fapi@lists.openid.net</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">></span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"MS Gothic"">のメール</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">:<br>
I have concerns. The reason for this group was to address the legal<br>
and security requirements of a particular sector in efforts to get a<br>
global standard based on Connect.<br>
A mark of success is universal applicability, but a loss of focus<br>
would be of grave concern for me speaking as an individual.<br>
Phil<br>
On Apr 10, 2018, at 8:30 AM, Sarah Squire via Openid-specs-fapi<br>
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wrote:<br>
Hey Folks,<br>
At the last OpenID Foundation Board meeting, the board agreed that<br>
since FAPI is not limited to the financial sector and does not<br>
proscribe API designs, it should be renamed.<br>
The fundamental thing that differentiates the OpenID Foundation's<br>
OpenAPI working groups is that they focus on consumer-facing<br>
ecosystems as opposed to enterprise, so we could focus it in that<br>
direction.<br>
Instead of saying API, we could say something like resource or<br>
protected resource.<br>
How about<br>
Consumer Resource Protection (CRP)<br>
Delegated Resource Access for Consumer-facing Operators (DRACO)<br>
Delegated Protection of Consumer Resources (DPCR)<br>
Thoughts?<br>
Sarah<br>
PS I work for Ping Identity. Sending this from an old email address<br>
because of IPR/mailing list issues.<br>
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