[Openid-specs-fapi] Bristol man loses £8,000 in banking app scam

Joseph Heenan joseph at authlete.com
Thu Feb 9 17:29:03 UTC 2023


Hi Kosuke

> On 9 Feb 2023, at 14:51, Kosuke Koiwai via Openid-specs-fapi <openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net> wrote:
> 
> FYI 
> 
> Is there anything we can do?
> 
> https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-bristol-64559260

As I understand it, the scam works something like this:

The user’s debit card details have been obtained by the scammer.

The scammers try to make payments online using these details, which triggers Mastercard secure3d ( https://www.starlingbank.com/blog/introducing-3D-secure/ ).

The user generates a code in their app, which has copious warnings not to share it (screenshots attached).

I don’t understand the details/limitations of 3d secure, but this feels like the classic problem of OTPs not being context specific - i.e. it’s generally better to have a prompt like “Do you want to approve a transaction of £1523.43 to Amazon Gift Cards?”, although for some reason many of the 3d secure prompts I’ve seen do have a fallback to an sms issued OTP (but again, at least they can include the context in the SMS).

Thanks

Joseph



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