[Openid-specs-fapi] HTTP Signing

Brian Campbell bcampbell at pingidentity.com
Fri Jan 8 22:33:55 UTC 2021


It's definitely more than just the claims as it uses and extends DPoP
including the HTTP header that carries the DPoP JWT proof.

A slight modification to part of Dave's description might be helpful:





*This specification is an extension to DPoP that supports the following 1.
Inclusion of a digest of the HTTP body as a claim in the DPoP proof  2.
Using DPoP proofs in HTTP responses 3. Allowing a signed HTTP response to
be cryptographically linked to a signed HTTP request*


On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 11:17 PM Anders Rundgren via Openid-specs-fapi <
openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net> wrote:

> Hi Dave,
>
> I would like the draft to clearly state that it only uses DPoP claims
> rather than the DPoP protocol.
> Or is this assertion is wrong?  If so, I'm obviously confused :(
>
> Thanx,
> Anders
>
> On 2021-01-06 16:15, Dave Tonge via Openid-specs-fapi wrote:
> > Dear WG
> >
> > The FAPI2 Advanced spec requires a mechanism for HTTP signing.
> >
> > Brian and I have worked on the following spec based on DPoP that could
> be used to enable this:
> >
> >
> https://bitbucket.org/openid/fapi/src/581a0350bca97240f104fa27f4e9f0d9d851aab0/Financial_API_Simple_HTTP_Message_Integrity_Protocol.md
> <
> https://bitbucket.org/openid/fapi/src/581a0350bca97240f104fa27f4e9f0d9d851aab0/Financial_API_Simple_HTTP_Message_Integrity_Protocol.md>
> (SHIMP)
> > There has been some discussion in this issue <
> https://bitbucket.org/openid/fapi/issues/309/decision-on-message-signing-for-fapi-2
> >
> >
> > I'll provide some more info below, but my ask of the WG is:
> >
> > *Should the FAPI WG adopt this document as a WG draft and start working
> on it?*
> >
> > I would be grateful for any feedback. If there is not support to work on
> such a spec within the WG then we can leave it and potentially in FAPI2
> advanced require http signing but without specifying the method to use.
> >
> > ---
> >
> > Here is an overview of the spec from the intro:
> >
> > /The OAuth working group at the IETF has defined the DPOP standard which
> "enables a client to demonstrate proof-of-possession of a public/private
> key pair by including a DPoP header in an HTTP request". DPOP specifies a
> way for a client to sign a proof which contains claims for the HTTP method
> and URI. The specification allows DPoP proofs to be extended to protect
> additional HTTP data.
> >
> > This specification is an extension to DPoP that supports the following
> >
> >   1. Signing a digest of the HTTP body data
> >   2. Using DPoP proofs in HTTP responses
> >   3. Allowing a signed HTTP response to be cryptographically linked to a
> signed HTTP request
> >
> > The aim of this specification is to provide a simple, interoperable
> method of signing HTTP requests and responses. By utilizing DPOP (which
> itself utilizes the JOSE suite of standards) and DIGEST there is no need
> for custom canonicalization rules. The DPoP proof is a simple
> self-contained JWT and is therefore simple to verify./
> > ----
> >
> > I personally think that the ability to have a standards based approach
> to link the request and response for http signing will be important for the
> non-repudiation use-case.
> >
> > Issues with other solutions:
> >
> > 1. Draft Cavage - custom (error prone) canonicalization and algorithm
> specification
> > 2. OBE / ETSI - same problem as Cavage, but with the addition of a
> strange use of detached JWS for signing caoniclisated http headers rather
> than the body
> > 3. Detached JWS (used by OB UK) - only signs the body, requires custom
> JWT header claims
> >
> > In contrast SHIMP has these advantages:
> >   - uses simple JWTs, easy to implement, interoperable
> >   - no need for custom JWT header claims
> >   - no error-prone canonicalization
> >
> > I look forward to receiving your feedback.
> >
> > Dave
> >
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