[Openid-specs-fapi] Presentation about hypermedia login API

John Bradley ve7jtb at ve7jtb.com
Tue Feb 9 23:18:43 UTC 2021

Hi Travis,

Hope you are well.

You signed the working group IPR agrement.

You can see the list of agrements at: Executed Contribution Agreements |
OpenID <https://openid.net/executed-contribution-agreements/>

Specificly for Curity:

The contribution licence agrements that you are looking at are for
opensource project contributions.

The Working group IPR unlike IETF dosen't require pattent disclosures. 

It however requires a non assert over all openID specifications the WG

If you are OK with that then you can discuss what you want.

If you are contributing code at some point then the other IPR
contribution may be required.

I hope that helps.

John B.

On 2/9/2021 5:14 PM, Travis Spencer via Openid-specs-fapi wrote:
> It can be checked with the secretary that Curity AB has signed the
> CONTRIBUTOR AGREEMENT on July 27, 2020 that states:
> 1. INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY. OIDF intends to make Specifications (defined
> in the OpenID Intellectual Property Rights Policy) broadly available
> for implementation by others without a fee. To facilitate this,
> Contributor grants certain rights in (and makes other commitments
> regarding) its intellectual property. These grants and commitments are
> set forth in the OpenID Intellectual Property Rights Policy
> (“Policy”), which is fully incorporated into this Agreement by this
> reference.
> The Policy in that term can be found at
> https://openid.net/intellectual-property/ or more specifically
> https://openid.net/wordpress-content/uploads/2017/06/OIDF-Policy-IPR-Policy-Final-6-19-2017.pdf
> which states:
> VI.Patents.1.Limited Patent Promise.Each Contributor hereby
> irrevocably makes the following promise (on behalf of itself and its
> Related Entities) without the requirement of any monetary compensation
> or any additional terms and conditions:Contributor (“I” or “me”)
> hereby irrevocably promises not to assert any Necessary Claims [claims
> of any patent or patent application] against any other entity (“you”)
> for making, using, selling, offering for sale, importing, or
> distributing any Implementation or offering any product or service to
> the extent it contains or uses a Compliant Portion [those specific
> portions of a product ... to the extent that they implement and are
> compliant with all relevant portions of a particular Implementers
> Draft or Final Specification]...
> The listed representatives in our signed CONTRIBUTOR AGREEMENT are me,
> Mark Dobrinic, Jacob Ideskog, Renato Athaydes, and Pedro Felix. The
> initial Working Group is "FAPI".
> It is not listed on
> https://openid.net/intellectual-property/contribution-license-agreement/
> but I think that is because that page is outdated (or because that
> page is not listing what I think it's listing).
> IANAL either so please let me know if we can present tomorrow or not.
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 8:33 PM Brian Campbell
> <bcampbell at pingidentity.com> wrote:
>> IANAL but in a previous/linked message on this topic said the following, which seems like it might have implications beyond the scope of the OIDF contribution agreement. But, again, IANAL.
>>> Our API is patent pending, but we're willing to offer royalty free use
>>> of our invention should any of its embodiments end up in a spec.
>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 12:03 PM Travis Spencer via Openid-specs-fapi <openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 6:40 PM ANTHONY NADALIN <nadalin at prodigy.net> wrote:
>>>> I assume there are no IPR issues when presenting to this group?
>>> The WG has an IPR agreement, and we're members who have agreed to that.
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