[Openid-specs-fapi] European Payments Initiative/Open Banking

Torsten Lodderstedt torsten at lodderstedt.net
Fri Dec 3 07:27:26 UTC 2021


Hi,

is there a spec available? What banks will support it? I’m asking since I heard there is not that much EPI support across Europe.

best regards,
Torsten.

> Am 03.12.2021 um 07:23 schrieb Anders Rundgren via Openid-specs-fapi <openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net>:
> 
> Hi List,
> I hope you don't find my frequent postings too annoying :)
> Anyway, the time may have come where a serious conversation about wallets and Open Banking could be meaningful.
> 
> Why is that?  Well, the billion euro project known as the European Payments Initiative (https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.epicompany.eu/&source=gmail-imap&ust=1639117419000000&usg=AOvVaw1Nz-pqRdcRWnhYeF-nBFnI) are about creating a wallet that will not only support on-line payments but POS payments and P2P payments as well.  The wallet will also provide an authentication solution.  Similar schemes are already firmly established in Scandinavia.  That is, even "old boring banks" can innovate!
> 
> If EPI succeeds, Open Banking payments will appear dated and limited.  You don't have to analyze things very deep to find problems: Selecting bank when there are thousands to choose from doesn't appear to have a reasonable solution.  With a wallet you select a card of yours, and that's it.
> 
> I claim, that Open Banking without any problems can support a wallet scheme.
> 
> It is a pity that the W3C and FIDO alliance folks ignored the wallet concept: https://www.google.com/url?q=https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/570%23issuecomment-972578433&source=gmail-imap&ust=1639117419000000&usg=AOvVaw27j4nbTcUE0ZuNU4fjOcU8
> 
> Regards
> Anders Rundgren
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