[Openid-specs-fapi] FW: OBE JWS Profile - Version 0.10b for Approval

Dave Tonge dave.tonge at momentumft.co.uk
Fri Sep 18 08:47:32 UTC 2020


Can we feedback as the FAPI WG?

On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 at 10:46, Ralph Bragg <ralph.bragg at raidiam.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> It’s not too late to input back.
>
> RB
>
> Ralph Bragg
> Raidiam Services Ltd
>
> Sent from a mobile device. Please excuse brevity and typos.
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Dave Tonge <dave.tonge at momentumft.co.uk>
> *Sent:* Friday, September 18, 2020 9:45:02 AM
> *To:* FAPI Working Group List <openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net>
> *Cc:* Ralph Bragg <ralph.bragg at raidiam.com>; Francis Pouatcha <fpo=
> 40adorsys.de at dmarc.ietf.org>; Justin Richer <justin at bspk.io>
> *Subject:* Re: [Openid-specs-fapi] FW: OBE JWS Profile - Version 0.10b
> for Approval
>
> Hi Ralph
>
> I don't really like this part:
> [image: Screenshot 2020-09-17 at 14.26.45.png]
>
> I suppose its too late to change it, but this is the same issue I have
> with draft-cavage / http signing
>
> I would rather take the dpop approach and create some top level key names
> for relevant headers (e.g. htm and htu):
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-fett-oauth-dpop-04#section-4.1
>
> In fact I see they are actually relying on draft-cavage for how construct
> the http header payload :
> > Note 1: The string construction procedures to be defined in JAdES for
> "http:
> > //uri.etsi.org/19182/HttpHeaders” follow the string construction
> procedures to create the Data to be
> > Signed as defined in draft-cavage-http-signatures-10 [27], section 2.3.
>
> As noted before this is an individual draft, I don't think an
> international standard should rely on this.
>
> I think we need to consider moving away from recommending headers for
> business critical metadata. Really things like ip address, geo-location and
> other fraud factors should be put in the body of the request. Then we can
> recommend that the simplest and least error prone way of signing can be to
> turn the request body into a JWT.
>
> I would prefer an extension to DPoP that defines how to sign the digest
> header.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 at 19:16, Ralph Bragg via Openid-specs-fapi <
> openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>
> FYI – speak now or forever hold your peace.
>
>
>
> Kind Regads,
>
> Ralph
>
>
>
> *From: *Joao Daniel Parracho <j.parracho at openbankingeurope.eu>
> *Date: *Wednesday, 16 September 2020 at 17:27
> *Cc: *Nick Pope <nick.pope at openbankingeurope.eu>, "John Broxis (
> j.broxis at preta.eu)" <j.broxis at preta.eu>
> *Subject: *OBE JWS Profile - Version 0.10b for Approval
>
>
>
> Dear Colleagues,
>
>
>
> OBE is pleased to distribute the OBE JWS Profile version 0.10b for your
> approval.  This has minor changes from the version 0.0.9 distributed
> earlier this year as listed in the document “Comments on OBE JWS profile v
> 0.9” and with specific revisions shown in document
> “PRETA-OBE-ID-000-010b-OBE JWS- proposed final draft for approval-with
> revs”.
>
>
>
> It is proposed to finalise this approval at a meeting API and ETSI
> signature format experts on 22nd October at 15:00 CEST.  Can you let us
> known if you approve or have any remaining concerns with this document *at
> least 1 week before this meeting date*?  Also, if you wish to attend the
> meeting on 22nd October and are unable to make this date please let us know
>  as soon as possible.
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> João
>
> *João Parracho*
>
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