[Openid-specs-fapi] Title change of Part 1 and Part 2.

Dave Tonge dave.tonge at momentumft.co.uk
Wed Nov 6 15:07:35 UTC 2019


We discussed the name change on the call and agreed to do some work on the
attacker model.
Here is the relevant issue on the FAPI issue tracker:
https://bitbucket.org/openid/fapi/issues/163/more-description-of-the-security-model

It would be good to get some feedback on it.

Thanks

Dave

On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 at 14:50, Torsten Lodderstedt via Openid-specs-fapi <
openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net> wrote:

>
>
> Am 25.10.2019 um 03:15 schrieb Tatsuo Kudo via Openid-specs-fapi <
> openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net>:
>
> 
>
> I tend to explain the part 1 and 2 like:
>
>    - Part 1: OAuth 2.0 deployment practice + OAuth 2.0 extension specs
>    - Part 2: Part 1 + OIDC deployment practice + OIDC extension specs
>
> So how about:
>
>    - Part 1: FAPI OAuth 2.0 Profile (FAPI-OAuth)
>    - Part 2: FAPI OpenID Connect Profile (FAPI-OIDC)
>
> As Nat described, the idea is to have security profiles on certain levels,
> both for OAuth. OpenID can be done with either profiles.
>
> Right now read and read/write do not have a clear definition in terms of
> security protection goals and attacker model. The first idea is to make
> “substantial” (medium) the profile ensuring authenticity of all parties
> (e.g. client authentication) and preventing any sort of replay (PKCE &
> sender constrained tokens). “High” should go further and add application
> level non-repudiation.
>
> best regards,
> Torsten.
>
> Just my 2c.
>
> Tatsuo.
>
>
> On 2019/10/25 0:34, Nat Sakimura via Openid-specs-fapi wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> Back in the IIW, I discussed with Torsten about the potential title change
> of Part 1 and Part 2. Currently, they are Read Only and Read&Write
> respectively but there are cases where the read only data is very sensitive
> while write operation is not of high value.
>
> Thus, we agreed that the current name may not be representing the real
> intention: Medium and High security profile respectively.
>
> During the discussion, we came up with the name:
>
> - Substantial (for Part 1)
> - High (for Part 2)
>
> It follows eIDAS marking.
>
> More details are recorded in the ticket #271.
>
>
> https://bitbucket.org/openid/fapi/issues/271/rename-and-adjust-fapi-profiles
>
> The participants in the Oct. 9 call all agreed to it.
> This mail is to solicit wider opinions on it.
>
> Please let us know of your opinions.
>
> Best,
>
> Nat Sakimura
> Chair, FAPI WG.
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