[Openid-specs-fapi] Renaming FAPI

Chris Michael Chris.Michael at openbanking.org.uk
Thu May 17 13:32:19 UTC 2018


​Agree 100%



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From: Mike Jones <Michael.Jones at microsoft.com>
Sent: 17 May 2018 14:27
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Subject: RE: [Openid-specs-fapi] Renaming FAPI

I much prefer “Financial-grade API” to “Financial-grade API Protection Interoperable”.  The latter is convoluted and artificial, whereas the former is simpler and natural.

                                                       -- Mike

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I thought the idea was to keep as FAPI​ (Financial-grade API)





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So, Financial-grade API Protection Interoperable?
Or Access instead of API?
Considering that people probably searches with 'API' as a search term, API seems to be a better option but I am open to both.
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On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 9:18 AM +0200, "Chris Michael via Openid-specs-fapi" <openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net<mailto:openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net>> wrote:

​+1





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+1 from me also



On 16 May 2018 at 16:11, Brian Campbell via Openid-specs-fapi <openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net<mailto:openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net>> wrote:
+1 to “financial-grade”

thanks Tatsuo


On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 8:07 AM, Mike Schwartz via Openid-specs-fapi <openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net<mailto:openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net>> wrote:

ok!


On 2018-05-16 08:47, Ralph Bragg via Openid-specs-fapi wrote:
In support of Mike, - Acknowledging where this spec came from with
“financial-grade” really ticks all the boxes for me. +1

FAPI is everywhere in the OB specs (obviously) and there would be a
live ecosystem impact to change all references.

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<chair hat off>

And it tells people that it is a high security profile that is usable
for Financial transactions and interoperable.

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I really like Financial-grade API.  It acknowledges the original use
case, keeps the acronym (which will prevent breaking spec changes,
since the acronym appears in data structures), and makes it clear that
it is applicable beyond just the financial sector.

                                                       -- Mike

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It kind of works as it is a variation of "Carrier grade".

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier_grade [6]

Advantages of this name: :

- It is descriptive.

- It protects the investments on the acronym "FAPI".

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On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 6:28 AM +0200, "Tatsuo Kudo via
Openid-specs-fapi" <openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net<mailto:openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net>> wrote:
My intention is that the “-grade” suffix implies a level of
protection. Everybody can utilize the spec to achieve telco-grade,
healthcare-grade etc. while it is originally based on requirements
from financial services industry.

Tatsuo.

2018/05/16 13:03、Mike Schwartz via Openid-specs-fapi
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The whole point of the name change is that the profile is not
limited to finance. So does this accomplish that?

- Mike

On 2018-05-15 23:00, Phil Hunt via Openid-specs-fapi wrote:

+1
Name changes cause a lot of confusion. This opens the door but keeps
the acronym.
Phil
On May 15, 2018, at 8:40 PM, Tatsuo Kudo via Openid-specs-fapi
<openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net<mailto:openid-specs-fapi at lists.openid.net>> wrote:

It might be late but how about:
Financial-grade Access Protection Interoperability (FAPI)
Tatsuo.
2018/04/11 0:58、Phil Hunt via Openid-specs-fapi
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I have concerns. The reason for this group was to address the legal
and security requirements of a particular sector in efforts to get a
global standard based on Connect.
A mark of success is universal applicability, but a loss of focus
would be of grave concern for me speaking as an individual.
Phil
On Apr 10, 2018, at 8:30 AM, Sarah Squire via Openid-specs-fapi
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Hey Folks,
At the last OpenID Foundation Board meeting, the board agreed that
since FAPI is not limited to the financial sector and does not
proscribe API designs, it should be renamed.
The fundamental thing that differentiates the OpenID Foundation's
OpenAPI working groups is that they focus on consumer-facing
ecosystems as opposed to enterprise, so we could focus it in that
direction.
Instead of saying API, we could say something like resource or
protected resource.
How about
Consumer Resource Protection (CRP)
Delegated Resource Access for Consumer-facing Operators (DRACO)
Delegated Protection of Consumer Resources (DPCR)
Thoughts?
Sarah
PS I work for Ping Identity. Sending this from an old email address
because of IPR/mailing list issues.
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