<div dir="ltr">Hi Mark,<div><br></div>Authlete has long offered functionality to support OIDC4IDA's External Attachments. (cf. Service.<a href="https://authlete.github.io/authlete-java-common/com/authlete/common/dto/Service.html#isAccessTokenForExternalAttachmentEmbedded()">isAccessTokenForExternalAttachmentEmbedded()</a>)<br><br>However, we have not created a demo for External Attachments so far. If an issue like <a href="https://bitbucket.org/openid/fapi/issues/633">FAPI ISSUE 633</a> (Implementations of FAPI2 Message Signing - Particularly HTTP Message Signatures) is created in the eKYC-IDA WG's Issue Tracker, we will provide information once the demo is ready.<div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 9:34 PM Mark Haine via Openid-specs-ekyc-ida <<a href="mailto:openid-specs-ekyc-ida@lists.openid.net">openid-specs-ekyc-ida@lists.openid.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg-7281886199059080961">





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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif">The eKYC & IDA WG “OpenID Attachments” Draft is pretty close to publication and we have a question about whether to go to Implementer’s Draft or Final.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif">The content of this draft specification was previously embedded in Implementers Draft 4 and Implementers Draft 3 of the OpenID Connect for Identity
 Assurance spec:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif">so it has been through the implementers draft review process more than once before.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif">However, we are not aware that there are many real implementations which would be a very useful proof point of a draft and is often used as a decision
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif">There is one known implementation that uses the “Embedded Attachments” option but currently no implementation of “External Attachments” known to the
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif">Two questions:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<li class="m_4611872748119163220MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif">Please can you share any known implementations of OpenID Attachments<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="m_4611872748119163220MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif">If you are a Software or service provider would you consider doing an implementation?<u></u><u></u></span></li></ol>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif">Many Thanks,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif">Mark Haine<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif;color:black">Mark Haine <mark@considrd.consulting><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, 18 December 2024 at 14:13<br>
<b>To: </b>OpenID eKYC Identity Assurance Working Group <<a href="mailto:openid-specs-ekyc-ida@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-specs-ekyc-ida@lists.openid.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>eKYC and IDA WG Agenda 18-12-2024<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<a href="https://zoom.us/j/91073811618?pwd=YXBkcTBkakpkeVVsc1JuRlJzUVZrZz09" target="_blank">https://zoom.us/j/91073811618?pwd=YXBkcTBkakpkeVVsc1JuRlJzUVZrZz09</a></span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif">The OpenID Foundation (OIDF)
<a href="https://openid.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/OIDF-Antitrust-Policy_Final_2024-09-12.docx" target="_blank">
Antitrust Policy</a>, and any applicable U.S. and international antitrust and competition law, governs the conduct of all attendees and participants in all OIDF-sponsored activities, including meetings or events. Each attendee is responsible for knowing the
 contents of the OIDF Antitrust Policy and for complying with it. Attendees must not use meetings or events as a forum for anticompetitive conduct, or otherwise engage in any discussions which might give rise to an allegation of violation of antitrust laws.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Number of outstanding issues to address</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Changing focus of eKYC & IDA WG</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif">                Overarching Issue
<a href="https://bitbucket.org/openid/ekyc-ida/issues/1435/change-of-wg-focus" title="#1435: Change of WG Focus" target="_blank">
#1435: Change of WG Focus</a></span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<a href="https://bitbucket.org/openid/ekyc-ida/issues/1436/review-wg-charter" title="#1436: Review WG Charter" target="_blank">
#1436: Review WG Charter</a> - Mark</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif">                Meeting scheduling change parked ‘til start 2025– Mark</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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reword OP metadata</a></span></span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> – Hodari</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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authority mobile usecase</a> – Kosuke</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif">                Issue<a href="https://bitbucket.org/openid/ekyc-ida/issues/1339/create-profiles-of-the-oidc4ida-spec" title="#1339: Create profiles of the OIDC4IDA spec" target="_blank">#1339:
 Create profiles of the OIDC4IDA spec</a> - Mark</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif">                Reminder – meeting on 18^th will be the last of 2024</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif">                Regular WG calls will resume on 8^th January</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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