[OpenID-Specs-eKYC-IDA] Fwd: [Openid-specs-ab] Spec Call Notes 17-Dec-20
Torsten Lodderstedt
torsten at lodderstedt.net
Wed Jan 6 15:29:24 UTC 2021
Hi all,
FYI - the minutes of the OpenID Connect/AB call with the discussion re Conditional Claims
best regards,
Torsten.
> Anfang der weitergeleiteten Nachricht:
>
> Von: Mike Jones via Openid-specs-ab <openid-specs-ab at lists.openid.net>
> Betreff: [Openid-specs-ab] Spec Call Notes 17-Dec-20
> Datum: 17. Dezember 2020 um 17:34:35 MEZ
> An: "openid-specs-ab at lists.openid.net" <openid-specs-ab at lists.openid.net>
> Kopie: Mike Jones <Michael.Jones at microsoft.com>
> Antwort an: "Artifact Binding/Connect Working Group" <openid-specs-ab at lists.openid.net>
>
> Spec Call Notes 17-Dec-20
>
> Mike Jones
> Nat Sakimura
> Alberto Pulido - From eKYC-IDA and Santander
> Filip Skokan
> George Fletcher
> Oliver Terbu
> Tom Jones
> Tim Cappalli
> Achim Schlosser - European Identity Foundation
> Kristina Yasuda
> John Bradley
> Bjorn Hjelm
>
> Conditional Claims at eKYC-IDA WG
> Alberto Pulido made an invited presentation on work happening in the eKYC-IDA working group
> The existence of claim values meeting criteria can be obtained without revealing the value
> For instance, age >= 18
> Oliver asked whether they looked into using JSON Path for this
> Albert responded that they looked at a number of other proposals
> They wanted something simple
> Oliver said that JSON Path already has relational operators
> Mike asked whether JSON Path supports querying for values without revealing them
> Alberto said that operators can be combined
> Mike said that possibly JSON Path operator syntax can be used even if all of it isn't applicable
> George asked about internationalization considerations
> George asked Bjorn whether features of the MODRNA User Questioning API might be applicable
> Bjorn thought so
> John observed that there are cans of works about displaying arbitrary RP strings in the OP interface
> Alberto said that values may need to be checked in the back end
> Nat said that the purpose of the presentation was to ask whether to do this work in eKYC-IDA or in the Connect WG
> George: There's value of having this work in a common setting
> John: We had the age claim as an example in the Core spec
> Bjorn: I believe this belongs in a central place, therefore should be in the Connect WG
> Nat asked if there's enough bandwidth and volunteers to work on this item
> eKYC has a bunch of people that want to work on it
> But Nat agrees that it should be in Connect
> John asked whether those from eKYC could participate in the Connect WG
> John: We could have special calls for this
> Mike: We don't want to create a subgroup if that loses the benefit of broad WG review and participation
> Bjorn: Agrees with Mike. Said that this can be addressed by having published agendas.
> George: We need decent read-out on a frequent basis to get broad review
> Nat: We would need a leader for the work
> John: We should have a document shepherd
> John: They're just additional working calls with a dedicated agenda
> Mike: We don't want subgroups. We want focus areas or work items.
> John: They can just be calls with agendas published in advance. If they have clear topics, people will self-select.
> Kristina: They can be special topic calls. Several people agreed.
> John: You need a separate field for language/script designation. UTF-8 is not self-describing.
> John: We should have a contributed document as a starting point
> Alberto will join the working group and contribute the document
> Nat: We need to identify a leader and then announce special topic calls
> Kristina will serve as a SIOP topic leader. Mike and Oliver will back her up.
>
> External Organizations - W3C
> George gave a status update on both IsLoggedIn and WebID
> IsLoggedIn
> Apple is pressing forward with IsLoggedIn
> It might clear cookies for inactive logins
> The W3C TAG wants to make sure that different browsers implement the same things
> WebID
> Google has put WebID support in Chrome canary 89
> Tim said that it currently errors out early
> George and Vittorio Bertocci are working on responding to these
> Achim would like to support their work
> Tim said that many consumers wouldn't know that being logged out at Google will also log them out at YouTube
> Tom observed that first party sets could be ambiguous
> For instance, is amazon.com <http://amazon.com/> the same as amazon.co.uk <http://amazon.co.uk/>?
> George said that IsLoggedIn currently is only aware of password managers or WebAuthn - not federation, etc.
> Tim and Tom and George and Vittorio will organize a special call about this
>
> External Organizations - DIF
> Kristina reports that DIF is holding a virtual F2F on January 19
> https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dif-face-to-face-virtual-2-tickets-131061150429 <https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dif-face-to-face-virtual-2-tickets-131061150429&source=gmail-imap&ust=1608827686000000&usg=AOvVaw0I1112gbZLFNzCXfuyzGOh>
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> SIOP V2 Draft
> The contributed V2 draft matches the scopes of work agreed to on the last call
> We discussed adopting the draft on that basis
>
> prompt=create Draft
> George received feedback on use of metadata
> He will publish an updated draft
>
> RP-Initiated Login Features
> We ran out of time to discuss this
>
> Specification Approval Votes
> Mike reported that there are three outstanding spec approval votes, all of which need more participation
> FAPI 1.0 Final Specifications
> https://openid.net/foundation/members/polls/216 <https://www.google.com/url?q=https://openid.net/foundation/members/polls/216&source=gmail-imap&ust=1608827686000000&usg=AOvVaw1aacFGb5v2iBPpr-MVhKiZ>
> MODRNA Connect User Questioning API Implementer's Draft
> https://openid.net/foundation/members/polls/221 <https://www.google.com/url?q=https://openid.net/foundation/members/polls/221&source=gmail-imap&ust=1608827686000000&usg=AOvVaw0t15Vpyh2WNWFgR_a6eAJ8>
> FastFed Implementer's Drafts
> https://openid.net/foundation/members/polls/226 <https://www.google.com/url?q=https://openid.net/foundation/members/polls/226&source=gmail-imap&ust=1608827686000000&usg=AOvVaw3Zkf5YrFEkOqlULVm7EjzU>
>
> Next Call
> The next call is on Monday, December 21 at 3pm Pacific Time
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