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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Please add “Mike Jones” to the list of attendees.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Openid-specs-digital-credentials-protocols <openid-specs-digital-credentials-protocols-bounces@lists.openid.net>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Joseph Heenan via Openid-specs-digital-credentials-protocols<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, April 12, 2025 1:08 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Digital Credentials Protocols List <openid-specs-digital-credentials-protocols@lists.openid.net><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Joseph Heenan <joseph@authlete.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Openid-specs-digital-credentials-protocols] Notes from 11th April WG meeting<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Minutes are below; please reply to the list if anything needs to be corrected. Many thanks to Raj & Gareth for taking notes!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:26.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Post-IIW Spring 2025 DCP WG minutes</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Note Takers: Rajvardhan Deshmukh + Gareth Oliver</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-weight:normal">Attendees</span><o:p></o:p></h2>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Rajvardhan Deshmukh<o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo1;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Joseph Heenan<o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo1;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Kristina Yasuda<o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo1;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Steve<o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo1;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Christian<o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo1;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Paul Bastian<o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo1;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Torsten<o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo1;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Brian Campbell<o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo1;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Lee Campbell<o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo1;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Hicham<o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo1;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Oliver<o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo1;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Aaron P<o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo1;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Bjorn Helm<o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo1;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">James FacePOS<o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo1;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Luca Giorgino<o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo1;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Martijn Haring<o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo1;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Zoey<o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo1;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Stefan<o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo1;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">T.P.Selvakumar<o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo1;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Petteri Stenius (Ubisecure)<o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo1;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">JC Lee | Turing Space<o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo1;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Gareth Oliver (Google)<o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo1;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><a href="https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/pull/401"><span style="color:#1155CC">https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/pull/401</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Will address Lucas’s comments during public review until we get written confirmation. Will merge the PR now.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Merging this PR. Chairs encourage folks to read it and then raise issues if they see anything missing.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo2;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Oliver will create an issue about cbc vs gcm for default and we will follow up the discussion.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">60 Day public review. <o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Adding a feature is easy, so plan to add more with consensus and if needed remove it during public review. Even for non-editorial changes.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Will address Lucas’s comments during public review until we get written confirmation. Will merge the PR now.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Merging this PR. Chairs encourage folks to read it and then raise issues if they see anything missing.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Brian will open an issue about adding examples for JARM.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Oliver is  suggesting a different default for enc algo.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Mike will share a link to text that says gcm default support is required for JARM.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><a href="https://www.iana.org/assignments/jose/jose.xhtml"><span style="color:#1155CC">https://www.iana.org/assignments/jose/jose.xhtml</span></a> is the IANA JOSE Algorithms registry. 
</span><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">In it, A128GCM is Recommended for JWE implementations and support for A128CBC-HS256 is required for JWE implementations.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">A128CBC-HS256 is a composite algorithm defined by a cryptographer at Cisco in the CFRG and is an authenticated encryption algorithm - unlike bare A128CBC.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Oliver will create an issue and we will follow up the discussion.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Won’t need WG time, can resolve in the PR comments.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Dropping the topic for today, PR to remain open.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Fully specified/defined algo: Those that fully determine the cryptographic operations to be performed, including any curve, key derivation function (KDF), hash functions, etc.  Examples are RS256
 and ES256K in both JOSE and COSE and ES256 in JOSE.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Reference this definition.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Merging the PR for now. Martijn will create issue(s) to fix it.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">‘Device signed’ can be done with signature or mac. What is a ‘fully specified algorithm’ in the context of macing? <o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Need to tweak definition to account for mac’ing. None of the hmacs in the COSE registry refer to that one. <o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">The reason we can use a single value to specify curve + algorithm. HMAC needs to values, or specify inline. <o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Suggestion OpenId4VP define new IANA values. Can we do that in this spec? Then register it. <o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Yes<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> Don’t see why we need to define IANA algorithms. <o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Decision to define them in OpenId4VP and use them. <o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Also usable in VCI<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">State required when keybinding is absent, but not for DC API.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Keep nonce as required.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">require_cryptographic_holder_binding as a better and more clear attribute name.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Should not reject for mdocs, need to make sure it is reflected elsewhere<o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Paul to do changes and be merged in today<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Updating all of the references<o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">What about VCI? Non-normative. <o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">What new ones are coming in? E,g, Fully-specified<o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Note: need to do another pass through<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Todo to take a look.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Back to this: Only allows positive ints for matching.  <o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">How to specify types? <o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Can’t do everything. <o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Can we just do the matching based on the credential you find at the end? <o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Example: <o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Identifiers<o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">What lee is saying is correct<o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Provide the field -> base64 in mdoc.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Solution add language of follow the conversion from cbor to json. <o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><a href="https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/pull/517"><span style="color:#1155CC">https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/pull/517</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Adds support for multi-signing as different to signing<o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Approved -> merging<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Should we stop referencing for anon-creds? <o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">We can always add it back later. We don’t have any
<i>real</i> experience. <o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">No objection. Remove it last. <o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Approved conditional on this. <o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><a href="https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/pull/492"><span style="color:#1155CC">https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/pull/492</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Rules for what can be returned. <o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Some clarification to make it correct. <o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Merged<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><a href="https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/pull/482"><span style="color:#1155CC">https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/pull/482</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">What is needed? <o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Should be good, resolving in working session today<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Proposal to do a working session then move forward.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">One of the implementers of federation of wallets, sentence that says ‘use of automatic registration is required’. Not true, we aren’t normally doing automatic registration flow. <o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Approved, will be merged. <o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Go through the state. <o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Need a dedicated call to the privacy considerations, we want it to match the guidelines section. <o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Some too strict (like wallet behaviors) oos<o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Maybe better in HAIP.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Issue: <a href="https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/issues/519">
<span style="color:#1155CC">https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/issues/519</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Talk with ISO next week? <o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Any strong objections to removing it now? <o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Need to redefine some things inline. <o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Conclusion is to remove references to 18013-7, <o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><a href="https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/issues/347"><span style="color:#1155CC">https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/issues/347</span></a> APU/APV issue<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Problem: if you want to use them as an attached value. You need a way to indicate it.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Define `validate_apu_apv` boolean that defaults false so we can extend this in the future. <o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><a href="https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/issues/510"><span style="color:#1155CC">https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/issues/510</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">This is a breaking change<o:p></o:p></span></li><li style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Solution: parameters specific to a client_id should be in the header not the payload. <o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Going to last call with two outstanding PRs. <o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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