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Please find below the minutes of the meeting</div>
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<div>Jan Vereecken</div>
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Agenda (see previous mail)</div>
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Notes</div>
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<b>HAIP/PR147: Addition of SD-JWT VCDM</b></div>
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https://github.com/openid/oid4vc-haip/pull/147</div>
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Summary by Daniel: In the context of EUDIW, this PR tries to come up with a single credential format that is able to express/secure both simple credentials as well as W3C Verifiable Credentials which allows for selective disclosure. In the end, the EUDIW would
reference mdoc and SD-JWT VC with W3C Verifiable Credential data structure on top.</div>
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Discussion on the need to support multiple formats and in particular for VCDM the need to support both 1.1 and 2.0. Requirements come from EUDIW. Multiple member states have indicated they already use VCDM (1.1 and 2.0) and want to keep using it (e.g. Spain
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No decision on whether a nested <code>vcdm</code> claim is necessary</div>
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Discussion whether HAIP is a spec, 1 profile or a set of profiles. Lee argued for 1 profile w optional parts, Martijn and Joseph that it is a set of profiles and implementors can choose to support all or parts of it.</div>
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More reviews required for this issue. No volunteers found during meeting. Joseph is going to discuss with editors.</li></ul>
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<b>OpenID4VP/399 text about effective client id in DC API can probably be improved</b></div>
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https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/issues/399</div>
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Marked as ready-for-pr as there were no objections against the POV in the issue</div>
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<span style="font-size: 16px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><b>OpenID4VP/399
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https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/issues/400</div>
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Some discussion about whether it’s appropriate to fix security issues only in mdoc, whether this issue is worth fixing at all (e.g. Brian thinks it's not). If there is an issue that should be fixed, then we should have generic guidance so that people creating
new credential format profiles know what they need to do to safely use those credential formats with VP.</div>
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<b>OpenID4VP/401 make consistent the use of prefixes in the client_id scheme</b></div>
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Joseph introduced the topic, in particular that when we first defined the ‘https’ scheme to mean only OpenID Federation we weren’t aware there were other OAuth ecosystems also using https urls. Also showed the nice table Aaron did summarising the current situation
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Mike J: We should avoid breaking federation, this would break systems people have in production that use OID4VP with Federation</div>
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Joseph: Even if that means we diverge from how IETF define the same mechanism?</div>
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Mike J: Yes, but that’s not the discussion we’re having.</div>
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Brian: We already made other breaking changes so they’re already broken anyway</div>
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We ran out of time without agreeing on next steps.</div>
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<b>Joseph mentioned various other PRs listed in the agenda don’t appear to need any further discussion and will be merged once they have sufficient approvals:</b></div>
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Thanks Joseph for covering the last 15 minutes while I was dealing with a power outage!</div>
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via Openid-specs-digital-credentials-protocols <openid-specs-digital-credentials-protocols@lists.openid.net><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 13 February 2025 16:55<br>
<b>To:</b> Digital Credentials Protocols List <openid-specs-digital-credentials-protocols@lists.openid.net><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Joseph Heenan <joseph.heenan@oidf.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Openid-specs-digital-credentials-protocols] [agenda] DCP WG call</font>
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/ IPR reminder</span></li><li style="font-size:13px"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",sans-serif">Note-taking</span></li><li style="font-size:13px"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",sans-serif">Events/External orgs</span></li><li>Public Review Period for Proposed Implementer’s Draft of OpenID4VC High Assurance Interoperability Profile has started: <a href="https://openid.net/public-review-period-for-proposed-implementers-draft-openid4vc-haip/" target="_blank">https://openid.net/public-review-period-for-proposed-implementers-draft-openid4vc-haip/</a></li><li>Please see notes from the Tue mtg on the updates from ISO SC17 WG4 mtg in Nagasaki last week</li><li>[HAIP] SD-JWT VCDM:</li><ul>
<li><a href="https://github.com/openid/oid4vc-haip/pull/147">https://github.com/openid/oid4vc-haip/pull/147</a></li><li><a href="https://github.com/openid/oid4vc-haip/issues/128">https://github.com/openid/oid4vc-haip/issues/128</a></li><ul>
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<li style="font-size:13px"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",sans-serif">Continue ISO-related OID4VP / HAIP topics:</span></li><ul>
<li style="font-size:13px"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",sans-serif"><a href="https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/issues/399">https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/issues/399</a></span></li><li style="font-size:13px"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",sans-serif"><a href="https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/issues/400">https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/issues/400</a></span></li></ul>
<li>other issues that have been asked to be put on the agenda</li><ul>
<li>make consistent the use of prefixes in the client_id scheme <a href="https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/pull/401" target="_blank">https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/pull/401</a></li></ul>
<li>PRs that will be merged once 3-4 approvals are in, without another WG discussion, (unless something unexpected comes up</li><ul>
<li>[merged] breaking change: <a href="https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VCI/pull/453" target="_blank">https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VCI/pull/453</a></li><li>noteworthy addition: </li><ul>
<li><a href="https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/pull/398" target="_blank">https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/pull/398</a></li><li><a href="https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/pull/393" target="_blank">https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/pull/393</a></li><li><a href="https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/pull/424">https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/pull/424</a></li></ul>
<li>smaller PRs:</li><ul>
<li><a href="https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/pull/419" target="_blank">https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/pull/419</a></li><li><a href="https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VCI/pull/452" target="_blank">https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VCI/pull/452</a></li><li><a href="https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VCI/pull/449" target="_blank">https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VCI/pull/449</a></li><li><a href="https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VCI/pull/439" target="_blank">https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VCI/pull/439</a></li><li><a href="https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VCI/pull/441" target="_blank">https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VCI/pull/441</a></li><li><a href="https://github.com/openid/oid4vc-haip/pull/85/" target="_blank">https://github.com/openid/oid4vc-haip/pull/85/</a></li><li><a href="https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/pull/380" target="_blank">https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/pull/380</a></li></ul>
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<li style="font-size:13px"><font face="Helvetica Neue, sans-serif">Please continue the discussion in the comments</font></li><ul>
<li><span style="font-size:13px">"Clarify the wallet behavior if the signature </span>can't<span style="font-size:13px; font-family:"Helvetica Neue",sans-serif"> be </span>verfied<span style="font-size:13px; font-family:"Helvetica Neue",sans-serif">" </span><a href="https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/issues/395" target="_blank" style="font-size:13px; font-family:"Helvetica Neue",sans-serif"> https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/issues/395</a></li><li>multi RP request: discuss "If the RP sends a request with multiple client identifiers for one or more mdocs, how is it supposed to figure out which client identifier to use for checking the session transcript in the respective device response?": <a href="https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/pull/308" target="_blank">https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/pull/308</a></li><li><b>[please vote for the options] </b>agree on the path forward for "same credential fulfilling multiple credential queries": <a href="https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/issues/397" target="_blank">https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/issues/397</a></li><li><b>[ready-for-PR]</b> Support for RP authentication with X.509 certificates that do not contain a dns name: <a href="https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/issues/320" target="_blank">https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/issues/320</a></li></ul>
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<div>Thanks</div>
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