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<p class="p1"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Hi folks, <br>
H</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">ere are the notes of the call on 14<sup>th</sup> Jan 2025 call.</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="p2"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="p2"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Rajvardhan Deshmukh (Cisco)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="p2"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Torsten Lodderstedt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="p2"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Michael Jones<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="p2"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Akash Shah (Google)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="p2"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Alan Wang (Anonyome Labs)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="p2"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Andres Olave<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="p2"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Bjorn Hjelm<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="p2"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Christian Bormann<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="p2"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Daniel Fett<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="p2"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">David Zeuthen (Google)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="p2"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Edmund<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="p2"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Hicham Lozi (Apple)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="p2"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Lukasz Jaromin (Radiam)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="p2"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Oliver Terbu<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="p2"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Paul Bastian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="p2"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Ryan Galluzzo, NIST ACD<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="p2"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Steve Venema<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="p2"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Tim Cappali (Okta)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="p2"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Lee Campbell (Google)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="p3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="p2"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Events:<br>
Hybrid meeting prior to OSW 2025. Register if you want to attend in person <a href="https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/oidf-dcp-wg-hybrid-meeting-prior-to-osw-2025-tickets-1146184230889">
https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/oidf-dcp-wg-hybrid-meeting-prior-to-osw-2025-tickets-1146184230889</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="p3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="p2"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Oliver: ISO interop event haip with mdocs and haip with vanilla oid4vc 4 th march. Qs email:
<a href="mailto:InteropTest-NL25@rdw.nl">InteropTest-NL25@rdw.nl</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="p2"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">registration form: <a href="https://forms.gle/9qAgzzjmPjMRDC3Q6">
https://forms.gle/9qAgzzjmPjMRDC3Q6</a> (by 31 January 23:59:59 UTC, don't wait till the last minute since seats are limited. wg10 and iso members organize this.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="p3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="p2"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Vitrual WG10 meeting follows the above interop. DMV of Netherlands. Discuss HAIP.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="p3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="p2"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Steve: A little more detail on the meeting mentioned earlier by Hicham:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="p2"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">This the 103rd meeting of WG10. Its a 3-day virtual mtg on 28-30Jan 13:00-16:00 UTC.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="p3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="p2"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Purpose: "The primary purpose of this meeting will be to confirm if the OID4VP + HAIP solution (of which a final text to review is expected by 14 January) addresses the requirements discussed in the June 2024 WG10
meeting.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Time allowing, a checkpoint may also be taken on other action points in preparation for the March 2025 WG10 meeting."<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="p3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="p2"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I'm also unclear on what is needed for non-WG10 members to attend<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="p3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="p2"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><a href="https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/pull/308">https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/pull/308</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="p2"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Don’t want a situation where RP tries multi client ids<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="p2"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Remove client_id from signature and just have origin.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="p2"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Session transcript content and encrytion for it are seperate problems handle them seperately.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="p2"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">This extension is only for DC api.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="p2"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Session Transcript bound to origin not RP cert. As multiple certs may exist and it is not easy to link them.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="p3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="p2"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">client_ids and the request have no relation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="p2"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Cannot determine client_id for which cred request<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="p2"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Torsten will document 2 options and their consequences<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="p3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="p2"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">iso 18013-5 multiple signature support, no client ID.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="p3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="p2"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Encryption:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="p2"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Sign key with a trusted 3rd party and that party should be associated with a certain trust framework.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="p2"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Encryption key in the request param<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="p2"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Expected origins<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="p3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="p2"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><a href="https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/pull/374/files">https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/pull/374/files</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="p2"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Oliver will change the name and then merge
<a href="https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/pull/374/files#r1906034557">https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/pull/374/files#r1906034557</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="p2"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">General Session transcript is more critical, so merging it first helps ISO. Later merge multi-RP PR<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="p3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="p2"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><a href="https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/pull/380">https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/pull/380</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="p2"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">apu/apv not every encryption algos have them.<br>
We can use the ones that do.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="p2"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">As client_id will be removed from the session transcript, we can replace it with the origin for this PR.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="p2"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Multiple origins facility exists (array) for OID4VP, but in HAIP there is just one origin.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="p3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="p2"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Torsten documents Q’s related to multiple RPS, encryption, and the consequence of these options. These might affect Brian’s PRs<span class="apple-converted-space">.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class="p2"><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p>
<p class="p2"><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class="p2"><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Rajvardhan</span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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