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<div dir="auto"><span style="background-color:transparent">Hi, </span><span style="font-size: 14.666667px"><br /></span><span style="font-size: 14.666667px"><br /></span><span style="background-color:transparent;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size: 14.666667px">here</span><span style="background-color:transparent;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size: 11pt"> are the </span><span style="background-color:transparent;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size: 14.666667px">notes</span><span style="background-color:transparent;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size: 11pt"> of today</span><span style="background-color:transparent;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size: 14.666667px">’</span><span style="background-color:transparent;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size: 11pt">s call:</span><span style="font-size: 11pt"><br /></span><span style="font-size: 11pt"><br /></span><span style="background-color:transparent">Participants:</span><br />
<span style="background-color:transparent">Joseph Heenan</span><br />
<span style="background-color:transparent">Brian Campbell</span><br />
<span style="background-color:transparent">Christian Bormann</span><br />
<span style="background-color:transparent">Daniel Fett</span><br />
<span style="background-color:transparent">Jin Wen</span><br />
<span style="background-color:transparent">Michael Jones</span><br />
<span style="background-color:transparent">Oliver Terbu</span><br />
<span style="background-color:transparent">Paul Bastian</span><br />
<span style="background-color:transparent">Ryan Galluzzo</span><br />
<span style="background-color:transparent">Tobias Looker</span><br />
<span style="background-color:transparent">Lee Campbell</span><br />
<span style="background-color:transparent">Hicham Lozi</span><br />
<span style="background-color:transparent">Gail Hodges</span><br />
<span style="background-color:transparent">Pat Buffolino</span><br />
<span style="background-color:transparent">David Zeuthen</span><br />
<span style="background-color:transparent">Andres Olave</span><br />
<span style="background-color:transparent">Alan Wang</span><br />
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<span style="background-color:transparent">Interop Testing</span></div>
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<li><span style="color:#000000;background-color:transparent">There are a couple of test events coming up</span></li>
<li><span style="color:#000000;background-color:transparent">ISO Test Event 28.-1.3</span></li>
<li><span style="color:#000000;background-color:transparent">POTENTIAL interop event on Use Case 4 (mDL) 26th / 27th Feb in the Netherlands (co-located with ISO interop event); F2F meeting, online/proximity</span></li>
<li><span style="color:#000000;background-color:transparent">POTENTIAL interop event on Use Case 4 (mDL) in April; exact date will be announced in January, Online only</span></li>
<li><span style="color:#000000;background-color:transparent">Discussed the idea of having an additional test event around OSW. Sense in the room was to instead focus on the ISO event.</span></li>
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<div dir="auto"><span style="background-color:transparent">Timelines for OpenID4VP publication</span><br />
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<span style="background-color:transparent">Next steps conformance testing:</span></div>
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<li><span style="color:#000000;background-color:transparent">get ISO mdoc integrated into the OID4VP RP tests</span></li>
<li><span style="color:#000000;background-color:transparent">lift tests to ID 3 then (DCQL)</span></li>
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<div dir="auto"><span style="background-color:transparent">Those PRs require reviews: </span></div>
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<li><span style="background-color:transparent">https://github.com/openid/oid4vc-haip/pull/146</span></li>
<li><span style="background-color:transparent">https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/pull/374</span></li>
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<div dir="auto"><span style="background-color:transparent">Discussed further issues</span></div>
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<li><span style="background-color:transparent">https://github.com/openid/oid4vc-haip/issues/140 </span></li>
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<li><span style="background-color:transparent">people in the call were in favor of making DCQL MTI in HAIP (instead of PE)</span></li>
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<li><span style="background-color:transparent">https://github.com/openid/oid4vc-haip/issues/142</span></li>
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<li><span style="background-color:transparent">Lee and Daniel argue that DCQL is simple enough to be completely be MTI</span></li>
<li><span style="background-color:transparent">discussion whether value matching is required or not</span></li>
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<div class="matchFont">best regards,
<div dir="auto">Torsten.</div>
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