<div dir="ltr">Hi All,<br><div><br></div><div>Thank you very much for joining our WG call yesterday on transaction data in payments/QES use-cases.</div><div><br></div><div><b>The latest WG drafts of OpenID4VCI (draft 14) and OpenID4VP (draft 21) </b>have been published (this is not an implementer's draft, the purpose is to have a stable text at a certain URL):</div><div>- <a href="https://openid.net/specs/openid-4-verifiable-credential-issuance-1_0.html">https://openid.net/specs/openid-4-verifiable-credential-issuance-1_0.html<br></a>- <a href="https://openid.net/specs/openid-4-verifiable-presentations-1_0.html">https://openid.net/specs/openid-4-verifiable-presentations-1_0.html</a><br><br></div><div><b>Please find minutes from yesterday's meeting </b>here: <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HraJMjjpOnWuOyBy2g0eRbF0kELtyGCPd97xEh-vQ2E">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HraJMjjpOnWuOyBy2g0eRbF0kELtyGCPd97xEh-vQ2E</a></div><div><br></div><div>Per OIDF policy, I am copy pasting the text in this email too, but the google doc is probably more readable.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I am also attaching slides from Mark on QES. Payments slides will be circulated shortly.</div><div><br></div><div>If anyone wants the recording, please reach out to me or Joseph.</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Kristina</div><div><br></div><div>---minutes below---</div><div><span id="gmail-docs-internal-guid-833963d2-7fff-de7e-df8a-79de8e63ad5c"><h1 dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:24pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:16pt;font-family:"Playfair Display",serif;color:rgb(247,93,93);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Attendees </span></h1><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Brian Campbell </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Luis </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Martijn Haring </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">John Bradley </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">nemanja.patrnogic </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Nels (Google)</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Lukasz Jaromin </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Pamela Dingle </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">David Chadwick </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Bjorn <a href="mailto:Hjelmbjorn.hjelm@oidf.org">Hjelmbjorn.hjelm@oidf.org</a></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Juba Saadi | Lissi GmbH </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Christian Bormann </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Gareth Oliver </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Andy Lim </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Hicham Lozi [Apple] </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Paul Bastian </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Jin Wen (Nok Nok Labs) </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Can Avunduk </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Greg Owen </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Michael <a href="mailto:Jonesmichael_b_jones@hotmail.com">Jonesmichael_b_jones@hotmail.com</a></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Jan Vereecken </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Sebastien Bahloul (IDEMIA/AFNOR) </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Ranjiva Prasad </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Steve Venema </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Andreea Prian (iDAKTO) </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Tim Cappalli (Okta) </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Rajvardhan Deshmukh </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Ed Curran </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Stefan Kauhaus | Visa </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Alistair Hughes (Google) </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Pedro Felix </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Willie Mays (us-sfo-1mst) </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Lee Campbell </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Torsten Lodderstedt</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Kristina Yasuda (OIDF)</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Daniel Fett </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Dr. Mark Ullmann | D-Trust </span></p><br><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Scribe: </span><a href="mailto:paymentsluis@google.com" style="text-decoration-line:none"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;text-decoration-line:underline;vertical-align:baseline">Luis Vargas</span></a></p><h1 dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:24pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:16pt;font-family:"Playfair Display",serif;color:rgb(247,93,93);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Notes</span></h1><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Stefan Kauhaus - Presenting EWC</span></p><ul style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Stefan Kauhaus (Visa):</span></p></li><ul style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:circle;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Coming from the EU Identity Wallet </span></p></li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:circle;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Visa in the EWC consortium</span></p></li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:circle;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Shared the legalese of EIDAS2, PSD2 as the motivation for the work (see slides for details)</span></p></li></ul><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Ranjiva Prasad (Visa)</span></p></li><ul style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:circle;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">In the ARF every attestation and credential is bound to a separate key</span></p></li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:circle;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">The key is specific to the attestation </span></p></li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:circle;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">The key binding proof will be signed attestation is this the SCA that will be passed to the issuer (APSP)</span></p></li></ul><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">David Chadwick: </span></p></li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Why are we adding application specific logic into OpenID4VP. Shouldn’t banks create a new application protocol for this use-case and then embed OpenID4VP in that?</span></p></li><ul style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:circle;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Stefan Kauhaus (Visa): </span></p></li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:circle;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">We need to work with existing EUDI wallets that only support OpenID4VP. Doesn’t make sense to build another protocol as the EUDIWs are not mandated to support it</span></p></li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:circle;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Torsten: Agrees</span></p></li></ul><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Ranjiva Prasad (Visa): </span></p></li><ul style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:circle;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">We believe this is generic enough to add to openid4vp. It's a generic transaction signing feature.</span></p></li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:circle;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Came up with the idea of using the signature over the presentation as a sign of the will of the user to authorize the transaction </span></p></li></ul><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Torsten & Lee: Not sure what you mean by key or “payment wallet attestation (PWA)”? Do you mean a credential of some sort?</span></p></li><ul style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:circle;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Stefan Kauhaus (Visa): </span></p></li><ul style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:square;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">The payment wallet attestation (PWA) is to prove that the wallet went through the registration process</span></p></li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:square;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Yes, we mean a credential that's provisioned to the wallet, like any other EAA.</span></p></li></ul><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:circle;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Torsten & Lee: Then we should name it as such, for a example a Payment Credential </span></p></li></ul></ul><br><ul style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Paul Bastian:</span></p></li><ul style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:circle;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">For transaction signing it is worth considering using a different credential format that is purpose built for payments</span></p></li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:circle;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">The important point is to connect the payment to the credential</span></p></li></ul><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Lukasz Jaromin</span></p></li><ul style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:circle;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">The EWC/Potential proposals are very Europe specific, and  OpenID4VP is not only for EU</span></p></li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:circle;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Stefan Kauhaus (Visa) : Exactly that’s the reason we (EWC) are not trying to be too prescriptive on something that will be used differently around the world. The mechanism would be an arbitrary JSON object.</span></p></li></ul></ul><br><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Mark Ullman (MU) - Potential </span></p><ul style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:circle;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left:36pt"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Use case 5 of the Potential LSP: Qualified eSignature</span></p></li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:circle;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left:36pt"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Qualified Electronic Signatures, one level over the Advanced electronic signatures which is what (Recital 26 of the EIDAS2 regulation) encourages Member States to consider in the day-to-day transactions provide a sufficient level of security and confidence.</span></p></li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:circle;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left:36pt"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">The wallet user would get a request to confirm</span></p></li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:circle;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left:36pt"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">The wallet will return the transaction data, upon return we will compare that it is the same that was linked to the PID or the credential</span></p></li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:circle;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left:36pt"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">It is more than signed presentation, because the signature is associated with the transaction</span></p></li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:circle;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left:36pt"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Feedback:</span></p></li><ul style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:square;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left:36pt"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">This is a new type of application code that will be required the application of the protocol in the verifiable presentation</span></p></li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:square;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left:36pt"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Lee: </span></p></li><ul style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left:36pt"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">There are different possibilities to do the signature verification</span></p></li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left:36pt"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">What does the dtbsr abbreviation stand for?  Data to be signed representation </span></p></li></ul><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:square;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left:36pt"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Torsten Lodderstedt (TL):</span></p></li><ul style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left:36pt"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">There are 2 ways to sign certificates: One requires data to be signed, the other requires hash</span></p></li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left:36pt"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">CSC (Cloud Signature Consortium)</span></p></li></ul><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:square;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left:36pt"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Andrea Prian (iDAKTO)</span></p></li><ul style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left:36pt"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Concern on who can access the presentation </span></p></li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left:36pt"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Torsten Lodderstedt (TL): The problem already exists, it just became obvious with transaction data</span></p></li><ul style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:circle;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left:36pt"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">One option is to send encrypted data to the wallet</span></p></li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:circle;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left:36pt"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Lee: </span></p></li><ul style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:square;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left:36pt"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">If it is Javascript from the browser to the wallet, there is no one to protect against it</span></p></li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:square;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left:36pt"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">The only thing that will see it is the operating system, which sees every pixel in the screen</span></p></li></ul></ul></ul></ul></ul><ul style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Lee  asked Visa to show a slide containing an example of the parameters they would include in the transaction data</span></p></li><ul style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:circle;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Ranjiva Prasad (RP) </span></p></li><ul style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:square;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Action item: Visa will present an example slide of what it would be look like, which would be different for a card account, bank account, will add this to the deck</span></p></li></ul></ul><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Mark Ullman: </span></p></li><ul style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:circle;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">There is an interest in standardizing. The EUDIW is governed by the European Telecommunications Standards Institute (ETSI)  </span></p></li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:circle;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">If a wallet receives a request and it does not recognize it, it will just reject it </span></p></li></ul><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Kristina Yasuda (KY)</span></p></li><ul style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:circle;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">We expect the actual payment types to be defined by the payment experts. This may live in another standard. The key is that its documented and referenced somewhere</span></p></li></ul><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Mark: There could be a registry of these credentials.</span></p></li></ul></span></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Aug 7, 2024 at 7:48 PM Kristina Yasuda <<a href="mailto:yasudakristina@gmail.com">yasudakristina@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Hi All,<br></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div> </div><div>Tomorrow's WG call, we will focus on the use of transaction_data mechanism in payments and QES (qualified electronic signature) use-cases. We will have guests joining us, including Ranjiva and Stefan from VISA and Mark from D-Trust.</div><div><br></div><div>After our usual business at the beginning of the call (notes, IPR, intros, PRs, events, etc.), I was planning something like below:</div><div>- 10min presentation from payments use-case and short QnA</div><div><div>- 10min presentation from QES use-case and short QnA</div><div>- discussion 20-30min</div></div><div><br></div><div>Thank you!</div><div>Kristina</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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