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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Hi folks,<br>
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I’ve noticed that 2 OIDF WG’s use HackMD to organize notes<br>
<a href="https://hackmd.io/@oidf-wg-sse">https://hackmd.io/@oidf-wg-sse</a> (<a href="https://github.com/openid/sharedsignals/wiki/Meetings">https://github.com/openid/sharedsignals/wiki/Meetings</a>)<br>
<a href="https://hackmd.io/@oidf-wg-authzen%0b%0b">https://hackmd.io/@oidf-wg-authzen<br>
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</a>In the future can we also use it? It’s free for public teams <a href="https://hackmd.io/pricing#faq">
https://hackmd.io/pricing#faq</a><br>
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Below are notes for DCP call on 2024-07-30<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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## Attendees:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Rajvardhan Deshmukh<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Joseph Heenan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Daniel Fett<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Christian Bormann<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Paul Bastian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">nemanja.patrnogic<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Lukas Jaromin<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Alan Wang<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Brian Campbell<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Hicham Loz (Apple)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Victor Lu<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Oliver Terbu<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">John </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black;background:white">Bradley</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Gareth Oliver<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Andres Olave<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Bjorn Hjelm<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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## Notes<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Paul: Thursday Sanders will present HDK(High deterministic Keys) Key management<br>
and arkg (remote key generation) related to key attestation. Benefit regarding batch issuance.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><a href="https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/issues/141">https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/issues/141</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Wallet backend and instance create the attestation, different pop per RP to avoid linkability.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Properties in the EU legislation state that the Wallet backend should not track which issuer the attestation is used and not know the exact credentials. How do we revoke credentials? Various options and discussions
about it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Next steps: More ideation around the above problems.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><a href="https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/pull/220">https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/pull/220</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Hicham: In the query, is there a need to specify the number of credentials that should be returned? What if a lesser number of creds satisfy the query?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Daniel: This is the way to use AND OR in the rule.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Christian: Add boolean syntax example with the query for better understanding.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Paul: How do we render UI with that syntax?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Daniel: After processing the query with existing Creds, then list/show them in the wallet UI.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Joseph: Interesting edge cases. e.g. 2 passports which to use, parent-child use cases. UI challenges for these.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Next steps: Add more complicated examples in the new issue. If the general direction is ok then review/discuss, implement feedback, and land.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><a href="https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/issues/124#issuecomment-2250772504">https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/issues/124#issuecomment-2250772504</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Client ID security-related work. Matter will propose a solution approach on Tuesday.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Please review:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><a href="https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/pull/197">https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/pull/197</a> Financial transactions folks need this<br>
<a href="https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/pull/218">https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/pull/218</a><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Best,<br>
Rajvardhan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Openid-specs-digital-credentials-protocols <openid-specs-digital-credentials-protocols-bounces@lists.openid.net> on behalf of Joseph Heenan via Openid-specs-digital-credentials-protocols <openid-specs-digital-credentials-protocols@lists.openid.net><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, July 30, 2024 at 11:24</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Digital Credentials Protocols List <openid-specs-digital-credentials-protocols@lists.openid.net><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Joseph Heenan <joseph@authlete.com><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[Openid-specs-digital-credentials-protocols] [agenda] APAC-friendly DCP WG + SIOP call (PST midday)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Hi All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Below is the suggested agenda for today's DCP WG + SIOP call at 12:00 midday PT (just over half hours time), </span><a href="https://zoom.us/j/94085567252?pwd=cHNFMExFalhlM2MrOFhoN3J6eDRuZz09"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">https://zoom.us/j/94085567252?pwd=cHNFMExFalhlM2MrOFhoN3J6eDRuZz09</span></a><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">IPR reminder/ Note-taking<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3;font-variant-caps:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal">
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<span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">Agenda bashing/adoption<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3;font-variant-caps:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal">
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<span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">Key attestations: </span><a href="https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VCI/issues/355"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VCI/issues/355</span></a><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3;font-stretch:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt">Wallets authenticating to verifiers: </span><a href="https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/issues/141"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/issues/141</span></a><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3;font-variant-caps:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-feature-settings:normal">
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<span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">Query language PR: </span><a href="https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/pulls"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/pulls</span></a><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><o:p></o:p></span></li></ol>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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