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<p>Hey Joe, I was there as well!! I am mentioned several times</p>
<p>Kind regards</p>
<p>David<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 23/11/2023 16:05, Joseph Heenan via
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<div dir="ltr">Spec Call Notes 2023-11-23<br>
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Attendees:</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Kristina Yasuda</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Christian Bormann</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Pedro Felix</div>
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<div dir="ltr"><u>Publishing a new revision of VCI</u></div>
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<div dir="ltr">It’s a while since a numbered working group draft
was published (Feb 2023). We should probably publish. Agreed to
publish whatever is there at the end of today’s call.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">There’s some inconsistencies in numbering. We last
published 11, but the current draft is numbered 13. We agree to
publish the latest as 12.</div>
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<div dir="ltr"><u>Pedro asked about timing for implementor’s
draft.</u></div>
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<div dir="ltr">Kristina proposed doing it once we’ve finished
discussing the instances terminology. A lot of discussion.
Torsten was in favour of starting implementor’s draft process
immediately to lock in IPR protections. Others in favour of
getting known breaking changes in. Torsten was worried that this
could drift for a long time and expand in scope. Kristina said
MS need the IPR protection, but not all the features they are
implemented are in the draft yet. Christian suggested time
boxing it. Joseph suggested getting the vote started before
Christmas/New Year holidays, which gives us about 3 weeks to do
any normative changes before starting WGLC and then the ID
draft. Torsten agreed to that.</div>
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<div dir="ltr"><u>Issues/PRs</u></div>
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href="https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VCI/issues/89"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VCI/issues/89</a><br>
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<div dir="ltr">Kristina asked why `proof_types_supported` isn’t
the indication that a proof is required.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Torsten agreed but suggested that the “supported”
suffix isn’t then applicable. Torsten suggested “required” but
Joseph said that is awkward if there are multiple entries as
only one is required. Torsten suggested just omitted
“supported”, and if it was omitted then proof of possession is
not required.</div>
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<div dir="ltr"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VCI/pull/70">https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VCI/pull/70</a></div>
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<div dir="ltr">Torsten has objections but they’re only editorial
but has questions about the charging mechanism.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Joseph suggested we keep the recently raised
charging issue separate and consider merging this for the
original purpose of notifications.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">David said there’s no difference of the credential
failing at the last minute and the issuer doesn’t need this
notification and this is adding complexity to all wallets.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Joseph said the complexity is low for wallets and
we have issuers (Microsoft, Forgerock) telling us it’s valuable
to them so the balance is towards merging.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Torsten suggested as we have implementors wanting
it we should add it, and review in a few months if people are
actually finding it useful.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">David C agreed with that and will make a comment to
that effect.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">We agreed to keep the charging mechanism out of
scope.</div>
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<div dir="ltr"><a
href="https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VCI/issues/91"
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<div dir="ltr">Kristina explained her latest thinking from her
most recent comment.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Torsten, Joseph & Judith agreed with latest
thinking.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Daniel agreed to have a go at a terminology PR, and
there may be follow ups needed.</div>
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href="https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VCI/pull/95"
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<div dir="ltr">Pedro said he was okay to the response he got about
lack of internationalisation.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Kristina asked about introducing pin_type to allow
alphanumeric pins.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Agreed to add this. And to remove the 4-8 length
restriction.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Consensus around renaming pin to tx_code before we
merge.</div>
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href="https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VCI/issues/94"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VCI/issues/94</a></div>
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<div dir="ltr">Pedro asked that we talk about this, but we didn’t
have time today, but please review it and we’ll talk about it
next week.</div>
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