[Openid-dcp] 07/29 DCP WG Notes

Gareth Oliver gco at google.com
Wed Jul 30 13:43:00 UTC 2025


Attendees

Gareth Oliver

Torsten Lodderstedt

Joseph Heenan (OIDF & Authlete)

Gail Hodges

Steve Venema

Brian Campbell

Lee Cam

Christian Bormann

Daniel Fett

Oliver Terbu

Martijn

Oliver Terbu

Tobias Looker (MATTR)

Bjorn Hjelm

Discussion

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   Heads up that FIDO is talking about notification endpoints/lifecycle
   management for DPCs (payment credentials)
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      How soon do we need it?
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      1.1 is fine, but something that exists in prioritary
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      Suggestion post-IIW to talk about server-to-server in a dedicated
      call.
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      Suggestion using sec-events, no one has tried implementing this yet
      so needs more robustness.
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      This is 3 months, can we talk about it earlier?
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         Ideally yes
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         Some support to having a dedicated
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         Suggestion to work out some time in august.
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      Lifecycle management vs server to server?
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         Both?
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         Starting point is to establish a common reference model and
         objective for what ‘server to server’ means.
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            AI for Gareth to put together a first draft
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   IIW
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      Likely to host a workshop on monday afternoon
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   JOSE HPKE
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      Need further changes before WGLC is done again and likely more
      breaking changes so advise against taking a reference.
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      Any dispute of the current plan of record?
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      There is an informative note in VP (nothing we can do to change that,
      but probably fine)
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   VCI
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      Issuer metadata
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         Example added, request for an extra review (Gareth will take a
         look)
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      Deferred Credential Endpoint
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         Waiting for some reviews, to see if it is an improvement to
         implementors
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         Tobias will take a look when he gets a chance.
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      Grammar/Punctuation Fixes
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         Non-normative just looking for review
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   HAIP
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      Key Attestations
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         What about interop
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         Either you mandate (which means HAIP is not always applicable)
         else, you need some interaction.
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         Missing the key attestation is a large gap
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         Should is not good enough because it doesn’t help with
         interoperability
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         There are existing formats, and transformation won’t meet the
         security requirements.
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         Suggest to match the conditional wording in 4.1
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         Wording of must depending on an ecosystem.
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         Suggestion to have a SHOULD that ecosystem turns into a MUST
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            Must be stronger than a SHOULD.
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         Should there be an ecosystem guidance section?
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            Maybe, but be good to start inline.
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            If writing guidance have to be complete (e.g. the
            privacy/security implications of a transformation)
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      Presentation of ISO Mdocs over OpenId4VP
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         Ready for PR
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      Meaning of HAIP
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         (High Assurance that) Valid and bound to the holder
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         (High Assurance that) Actually presented by the holder
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         If HAIP supports credentials that are not key bound, is that high
         assurance?
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            Not necessarily, as you can do other means.
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         Suggestion is we need to achieve these two, but silent on the
         specifics of the holder authentication.
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         Torsten to do a PR of the proposal.
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