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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">The HEART specifications would remain as-is in the closed HEART working group, with no further work on them. This is exactly the same fate as awaits the
<a href="https://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-token-bound-authentication-1_0.html">
OpenID Connect Token Bound Authentication</a> specification in the <a href="https://openid.net/wg/eap/">
EAP working group</a>, once it is closed in two weeks.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">And, for example, it’s the same situation as the
<a href="https://openid.net/specs/openid-simple-registration-extension-1_1-01.html">
OpenID Simple Registration Extension</a> specification, which was abandoned in 2006 without being finished. There’s lots of non-final specifications that work is no longer happening on, for lots of different reasons.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> -- Mike<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Bjorn Hjelm <blhjelm@gmail.com>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 18, 2025 4:42 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Michael Jones <michael_b_jones@hotmail.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> openid-specs-council@lists.openid.net; Gail Hodges <gail@oidf.org>; Mike Leszcz <mike.leszcz@oidf.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OIDFSC] Closing the HEART working group<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Mike,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I agree that there hasn't been much activity in the HEART working group for a while. My assumption would be that the specifications in the HEART working group would be transferred to the AB/Connect working group. Is my understanding correct?
Are there any outstanding open issues that need to be closed?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Kind Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Jun 18, 2025 at 9:43<span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span>AM Michael Jones via specs-council <<a href="mailto:openid-specs-council@lists.openid.net">openid-specs-council@lists.openid.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Now that we have a repopulated
<a href="https://openid.net/specs-council/" target="_blank">Specifications Council</a>, I believe it’s time that we exercise our responsibility to recommend closing of a working group.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Section 4.4 of
<a href="https://openid.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/OIDF_Process-Document_Final_2024-10-19.pdf" target="_blank">
https://openid.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/OIDF_Process-Document_Final_2024-10-19.pdf</a> says:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt">The Specifications Council may recommend closure of a WG at any time that the WG has not had Minimum Membership for six consecutive months at the time of closure, and such recommendation will promptly be submitted for a Supermajority
confirmation vote of the Board, in accordance with the voting procedures in §3.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Section 4.7 says:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt">The Specifications Council may recommend closure of a WG at any time that the WG has not had an Editor for the immediately prior 30 days, and such recommendation will promptly be submitted for a Supermajority confirmation vote
of the Board, in accordance with the voting procedures in §3.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">There hasn’t been any e-mail sent to the working group mailing list, other than by Mike Leszcz, since
<a href="https://lists.openid.net/pipermail/openid-specs-heart/Week-of-Mon-20220328/thread.html" target="_blank">
March 2022</a>. The last commit to the <a href="https://bitbucket.org/openid/heart/src/master/" target="_blank">
working group repository</a> was in 2018.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">If there was ever a clear candidate for closure, this is it!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Spec council members (John, Mark, Dick, Bjorn, Dima, Nat), please reply-all with your thoughts.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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