<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Just for the record - most of these messages (including the original proposal) are not making it onto the specs council mailing list. I presume it’s likely that this is because Gerry / David haven’t joined the mailing list.<div><br></div><div>I would presume the approval period probably runs from when it first appeared on the specs-council list, i.e. 28th September?</div><div><br></div><div>Joseph</div><div><br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 29 Sep 2023, at 03:53, Michael Jones via specs-council <openid-specs-council@lists.openid.net> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta charset="UTF-8"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Could that part of the charter then be updated to be clearer about the intent? I would prefer that it talk about creating OpenID Final Specifications in the working group and then possibly also requesting Publicly Available Submission (PAS) status in ISO and possibly other international standards organizations for those OpenID specifications.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> Thanks,<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> -- Mike<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(225, 225, 225) currentcolor currentcolor; border-image: none; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>policy-charter <<a href="mailto:policy-charter-bounces@lists.openid.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">policy-charter-bounces@lists.openid.net</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>David Brossard via policy-charter<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, September 28, 2023 3:47 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Policy Charter Mail List <<a href="mailto:policy-charter@lists.openid.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">policy-charter@lists.openid.net</a>><br><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>David Brossard <<a href="mailto:david.brossard@gmail.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">david.brossard@gmail.com</a>>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:openid-specs-council@lists.openid.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">openid-specs-council@lists.openid.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [policy-charter] Proposed charter: Authorization Exchange (AuthZEN) working group<o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Yes that is what I recall as well. What we want to do is build Bridges to other standards that are relevant for instance rich authorization requests under oauth or XACML. Or even industry specific standards like fhir.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">On Thu, Sep 28, 2023, 3:30 PM Omri Gazitt via policy-charter <<a href="mailto:policy-charter@lists.openid.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">policy-charter@lists.openid.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="border-width: medium medium medium 1pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204, 204, 204); border-image: none; padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;"><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">If I recall correctly, our intent was to standardize within the OpenID Foundation WG, and ultimately have the option to also contribute to other international standards bodies. <o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Andrew, does this match your recollection?<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">On Thu, Sep 28, 2023 at 3:22 PM Michael Jones via policy-charter <<a href="mailto:policy-charter@lists.openid.net" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">policy-charter@lists.openid.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="border-width: medium medium medium 1pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204, 204, 204); border-image: none; padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;"><div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">I’d missed seeing this; it was brought to my attention on a call just now. This is clearly an important area of work.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">The one point in the draft charter that puzzled me was “The WG intends to contribute any developed specifications to international standards development organizations such as ISO/IEC JTC 1, ITU-T, IETF for adoption”. I’m puzzled because the OIDF is a successful standards body. Why would we not develop and standardize the specifications within the new OpenID working group, rather than suggesting that other standards bodies do so?<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> -- Mike<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div><div style="border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(225, 225, 225) currentcolor currentcolor; border-image: none; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>policy-charter <<a href="mailto:policy-charter-bounces@lists.openid.net" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">policy-charter-bounces@lists.openid.net</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Gerry Gebel via policy-charter<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, September 12, 2023 3:56 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:openid-specs-council@lists.openid.net" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">openid-specs-council@lists.openid.net</a><br><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Gerry Gebel <<a href="mailto:gerry@strata.io" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">gerry@strata.io</a>>; Policy Charter Mail List <<a href="mailto:policy-charter@lists.openid.net" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">policy-charter@lists.openid.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[policy-charter] Proposed charter: Authorization Exchange (AuthZEN) working group<o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Hello Specifications Council - <o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Please find attached a charter proposal for the Authorization Exchange (AuthZEN) working group. We look forward to hearing any comments or questions you may have, which you can send to the individual proposers or the policy-charter email list.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Best regards,<br>Gerry<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">--<o:p></o:p></div><div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(136, 136, 136);">Gerry Gebel</span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(136, 136, 136);">Head of Standards</span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(136, 136, 136);">Strata Identity, Inc.</span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(136, 136, 136);">m 801.556.9994</span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"> </span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"><img border="0" width="420" height="88" id="_x0000_i1025" src="https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4x1t52X2alek--dLINNys-EULGTx82o1QIxtZiWijXCmuwz8O7t9gtbqdvtwRYVoKQWus3IfNk" style="width: 4.375in; height: 0.9166in;"></span><o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>policy-charter mailing list<br><a href="mailto:policy-charter@lists.openid.net" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">policy-charter@lists.openid.net</a><br><a href="https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter</a><o:p></o:p></div></div></blockquote></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>policy-charter mailing list<br><a href="mailto:policy-charter@lists.openid.net" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">policy-charter@lists.openid.net</a><br><a href="https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter</a></div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>