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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Thanks, I saw the agenda item on the 21<sup>st</sup> but as there were no notes, I was not sure.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I have made comments on the Slack about it and, if we have time, I would like to hear the hum of the group on it if possible<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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https://oidf.slack.com/archives/C0630873JGK/p1755899307096089?thread_ts=1754588095.990599&cid=C0630873JGK</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> gerry gebel <ggebel@gmail.com>
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<b>Sent:</b> August 28, 2025 10:45 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Lombardo, Jeff <jeffsec@amazon.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> AuthZEN Working Group List <openid-specs-authzen@lists.openid.net><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [EXT] [Openid-specs-authzen] Agenda for Aug 28th<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA">Hi Jeff <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA">The meeting notes file is here: </span><a href="https://hackmd.io/9hWzEn1xQz6CLuOFD3ZNMQ"><span lang="EN-CA">https://hackmd.io/9hWzEn1xQz6CLuOFD3ZNMQ</span></a><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA">We did talk briefly about the IDP interop scenario and the current version of that document is here: </span><a href="https://hackmd.io/@oidf-wg-authzen/idp-integration"><span lang="EN-CA">https://hackmd.io/@oidf-wg-authzen/idp-integration</span></a><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA">- there are actually 2 patterns for how to construct the token:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA">1) boxcar request<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA">2) search request<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA">This implementation doc definitely needs much more work before we can share it with potential implementers and we can add it to the agenda for today, time permitting<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA">Gerry<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA">On Thu, Aug 28, 2025 at 10:07</span><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><span lang="EN-CA">AM Lombardo, Jeff <</span><a href="mailto:jeffsec@amazon.com"><span lang="EN-CA">jeffsec@amazon.com</span></a><span lang="EN-CA">>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt">Thanks Gerry.<br>
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I did not see in the past meeting notes from my quick review discussions about, sorry if I missed it,:<br>
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Gartner Interop / focus on profiling two IDP -> PDP interaction patterns:</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt">IDP makes an “evaluation” call to determine whether a subject can access an application</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3">
<span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt">IDP makes a resource search call to determine what groups the subject is a member of, and issue an access token that contains a claim containing the list of groups. </span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></li></ol>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt">Did this happen?<br>
- If yes: could point me to the meeting notes for that please?<br>
- If no: when is this topic discussion planned to happen? Is it too early to start the discussion?</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt">Appreciated</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt">Jeff</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Principal Solution Architect, Security Specialist<br>
Montréal, Canada</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>gerry gebel via Openid-specs-authzen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> August 28, 2025 9:44 AM<br>
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<b>Cc:</b> gerry gebel <</span><a href="mailto:ggebel@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">ggebel@gmail.com</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXT] [Openid-specs-authzen] Agenda for Aug 28th</span><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:Symbol">·</span><span lang="EN-CA"> Review open issues (much progress last week, but 11 remain)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:Symbol">·</span><span lang="EN-CA"> Review pull requests (3 new updates)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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