<div dir="ltr"><div>See also <a href="https://hackmd.io/@oidf-wg-authzen/wg-meeting-20231205">https://hackmd.io/@oidf-wg-authzen/wg-meeting-20231205</a></div><div><br></div><h2 class="gmail-part" id="gmail-Agenda" title="" aria-describedby="popover774032" style="box-sizing:border-box;font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI","Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Roboto,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol";line-height:1.25;color:rgb(51,51,51);margin-bottom:16px;padding-bottom:0.3em;border-bottom:1px solid rgb(238,238,238);letter-spacing:0.35px;margin-top:0px"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">Agenda</span></h2><h2 class="gmail-part" id="gmail-Agenda" title="" aria-describedby="popover774032" style="box-sizing:border-box;font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI","Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Roboto,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol";line-height:1.25;color:rgb(51,51,51);margin-bottom:16px;padding-bottom:0.3em;border-bottom:1px solid rgb(238,238,238);letter-spacing:0.35px;margin-top:0px">👉 <em style="font-size:16px;letter-spacing:0.35px;font-weight:normal;box-sizing:border-box"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">Add items that you would like to cover on the call</span></em><span style="font-size:16px;letter-spacing:0.35px;font-weight:normal;box-sizing:border-box"> 👈</span></h2><ul class="gmail-part" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:16px;padding-left:2em;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI","Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Roboto,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol";font-size:16px;letter-spacing:0.35px"><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box"><p style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:16px 0px"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">Upcoming holiday schedule</span></p><ul style="box-sizing:border-box;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;padding-left:2em"><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box"><span class="gmail-ui-comment-inline-span" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:rgba(102,181,250,0.6);border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,119,208);border-width:0px 0px 2px">Cancel calls during Christmas and New Years weeks? Yes.</span></li><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding-top:0.25em"><span class="gmail-ui-comment-inline-span" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:rgba(102,181,250,0.6);border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,119,208);border-width:0px 0px 2px">No meetings on 12/26 and 1/2/24</span></li></ul></li><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding-top:0.25em"><p style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:16px 0px"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">Request for APAC friendly call time</span></p><ul style="box-sizing:border-box;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;padding-left:2em"><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">Decision to move to 11am PT to accommodate a slightly better time for APAC. </span><a href="https://hackmd.io/@gerryatstrata" class="gmail-mention-anchor gmail-user-card-popover" target="_blank" rel="noopener" title="" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(51,122,183);text-decoration-line:none">@gerryatstrata</a><span style="box-sizing:border-box"> to notify Mike L. of the change. New time effective as of 12/12/23</span></li></ul></li><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding-top:0.25em"><p style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:16px 0px"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">Don’t forget to join the community in</span></p><ul style="box-sizing:border-box;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;padding-left:2em"><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">📄<a href="https://hackmd.io/@oidf-wg-authzen">https://hackmd.io/@oidf-wg-authzen</a></span></li><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding-top:0.25em"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">💬</span><a href="https://oidf.slack.com/archives/C0630873JGK" target="_blank" rel="noopener" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(51,122,183);text-decoration-line:none"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">OpenID Slack Channel for AuthZEN</span></a></li><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding-top:0.25em"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">📧</span><a href="https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-specs-authzen" target="_blank" rel="noopener" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(51,122,183);text-decoration-line:none"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">Mailing list</span></a></li><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding-top:0.25em"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">👩‍💻</span><a href="https://github.com/openid/authzen" target="_blank" rel="noopener" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(51,122,183);text-decoration-line:none"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">Github Repo</span></a><br style="box-sizing:border-box"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">(</span><a href="https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1bWnazk6D54efbO08FUpwOyeLyrxz04hoSx2XwauyID8/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank" rel="noopener" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(51,122,183);text-decoration-line:none"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1bWnazk6D54efbO08FUpwOyeLyrxz04hoSx2XwauyID8/edit?usp=sharing</span></a><span style="box-sizing:border-box">)</span></li></ul></li><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding-top:0.25em"><p style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:16px 0px"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">What is the strategy for an interop?</span></p><ul style="box-sizing:border-box;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;padding-left:2em"><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">Goal: May 2024 at RSA</span></li><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding-top:0.25em"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">Is there still such a thing as a PEP SDK?</span></li><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding-top:0.25em"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">Should we avoid mentioning the word SDK?</span></li></ul></li><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding-top:0.25em"><p style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:16px 0px"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">Review comments from @alexbabeanu, @xmlgrrl , and others on </span><a href="https://hackmd.io/H2a8WW2vTjOc5xy4Tm85oQ" target="_blank" rel="noopener" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(51,122,183);text-decoration-line:none"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">Authorization Design Patterns</span></a></p></li><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding-top:0.25em"><p style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:16px 0px"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">Discuss plans for EIC (David) and Identiverse</span></p><ul style="box-sizing:border-box;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;padding-left:2em"><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">Tabled to next meeting</span></li></ul></li><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding-top:0.25em"><p style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:16px 0px"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">Use cases doc (Roland and Alex)</span></p><ul style="box-sizing:border-box;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;padding-left:2em"><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">Tabled to next meeting</span></li></ul></li></ul><h2 class="gmail-part" id="gmail-Attendees" style="box-sizing:border-box;font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI","Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Roboto,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol";line-height:1.25;color:rgb(51,51,51);margin-top:24px;margin-bottom:16px;padding-bottom:0.3em;border-bottom:1px solid rgb(238,238,238);letter-spacing:0.35px"><a class="gmail-anchor gmail-hidden-xs" href="https://hackmd.io/LYp9s7KbRESqUC3T_WBeWA?both#Attendees" title="Attendees" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(51,122,183);text-decoration-line:none;float:left;padding-right:4px;line-height:1"><span class="gmail-octicon gmail-octicon-link" style="box-sizing:border-box;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:1;font-family:octicons;display:inline-block;color:rgb(0,0,0);vertical-align:middle"></span></a><span style="box-sizing:border-box">Attendees</span></h2><p class="gmail-part" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px 0px 16px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI","Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Roboto,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol";font-size:16px;letter-spacing:0.35px"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">👉 </span><em style="box-sizing:border-box"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">Write your name down if you plan to attend</span></em><span style="box-sizing:border-box">. 👈</span></p><ul class="gmail-part" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:16px;padding-left:2em;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI","Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Roboto,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol";font-size:16px;letter-spacing:0.35px"><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">Atul Tulshibagwale - SGNL (will join 30 minutes after start of the call) - PST</span></li><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding-top:0.25em"><a href="https://hackmd.io/@xmlgrrl" class="gmail-mention-anchor gmail-user-card-popover" target="_blank" rel="noopener" title="" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(51,122,183);text-decoration-line:none">@xmlgrrl</a><span style="box-sizing:border-box"> - CST</span></li><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding-top:0.25em"><a href="https://hackmd.io/@gerryatstrata" class="gmail-mention-anchor gmail-user-card-popover" target="_blank" rel="noopener" title="" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(51,122,183);text-decoration-line:none">@gerryatstrata</a><span style="box-sizing:border-box"> - MST</span></li><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding-top:0.25em"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">Rifaat Shekh-Yusef - EST</span></li><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding-top:0.25em"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">Roland Baum - CET</span></li><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding-top:0.25em"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">Omri Gazitt - PST</span></li><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding-top:0.25em"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">Jeff Broberg - EST</span></li><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding-top:0.25em"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">Alex Babeanu - PST</span></li><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding-top:0.25em"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">George Fletcher - EST</span></li><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding-top:0.25em"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">David Hyland - AEST</span></li><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding-top:0.25em"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">Dani Katzman - Israel</span></li><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding-top:0.25em"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">Victor Lu - EST</span></li><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding-top:0.25em"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">Mickey Martin - EST</span></li><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding-top:0.25em"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">Bjorn Hjelm - PST</span></li><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding-top:0.25em"><a href="https://hackmd.io/@davidbrossard" class="gmail-mention-anchor gmail-user-card-popover" target="_blank" rel="noopener" title="" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(51,122,183);text-decoration-line:none">@davidbrossard</a><span style="box-sizing:border-box"> - PST</span></li></ul><h2 class="gmail-part" id="gmail-Interop-Conversation" style="box-sizing:border-box;font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI","Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Roboto,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol";line-height:1.25;color:rgb(51,51,51);margin-top:24px;margin-bottom:16px;padding-bottom:0.3em;border-bottom:1px solid rgb(238,238,238);letter-spacing:0.35px"><a class="gmail-anchor gmail-hidden-xs" href="https://hackmd.io/LYp9s7KbRESqUC3T_WBeWA?both#Interop-Conversation" title="Interop-Conversation" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(51,122,183);text-decoration-line:none;float:left;padding-right:4px;line-height:1"><span class="gmail-octicon gmail-octicon-link" style="box-sizing:border-box;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:1;font-family:octicons;display:inline-block;color:rgb(0,0,0);vertical-align:middle"></span></a><span style="box-sizing:border-box">Interop Conversation</span></h2><p class="gmail-part gmail-in-view" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px 0px 16px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI","Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Roboto,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol";font-size:16px;letter-spacing:0.35px"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">If we think of PEP-PDP, let’s create a site where we have a site (e.g. </span><a href="http://jwt.io/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(51,122,183);text-decoration-line:none"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">jwt.io</span></a><span style="box-sizing:border-box">) of authorization to demonstrate the interoperability.</span></p><ul class="gmail-part gmail-in-view" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:16px;padding-left:2em;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI","Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Roboto,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol";font-size:16px;letter-spacing:0.35px"><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">Language SDKs on the site</span></li><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding-top:0.25em"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">Gateway support e.g. Kong support for authorization, AWS API GW, Zuplo…</span><ul style="box-sizing:border-box;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;padding-left:2em"><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">Kong already has a plugin for OPA</span></li><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding-top:0.25em"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">Styra did develop standard patterns for the PEP-PDP</span></li></ul></li><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding-top:0.25em"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">What’s our intent with the interop?</span><ul style="box-sizing:border-box;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;padding-left:2em"><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">Do we want to raise awareness?</span></li><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding-top:0.25em"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">Do we want to show true interop between vendors/implementations?</span></li><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding-top:0.25em"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">Do we want to encourage software developers to adopt AuthZEN?</span></li><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding-top:0.25em"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">We want the “OIDC” moment</span></li></ul></li></ul><p class="gmail-part gmail-in-view" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px 0px 16px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI","Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Roboto,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol";font-size:16px;letter-spacing:0.35px"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">For the spec, we probably need to start with an implementer’s draft that defines some of the basics/core common use cases and build from that. That would allow us to have a draft 2 months from now (end of Jan, early Feb) leaving 2 months before interop at RSA in May. (George)</span></p><p class="gmail-part gmail-in-view" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px 0px 16px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI","Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Roboto,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol";font-size:16px;letter-spacing:0.35px"><a href="https://hackmd.io/@alexbabeanu" class="gmail-mention-anchor gmail-user-card-popover" target="_blank" rel="noopener" title="" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(51,122,183);text-decoration-line:none">@alexbabeanu</a><span style="box-sizing:border-box"> suggests focusing on the Permit/Deny part of the API.</span></p><p class="gmail-part gmail-in-view" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px 0px 16px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI","Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Roboto,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol";font-size:16px;letter-spacing:0.35px"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">We need to define a well-known use case that brings value to the attendee (developer/CISO).</span></p><p class="gmail-part gmail-in-view" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px 0px 16px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI","Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Roboto,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol";font-size:16px;letter-spacing:0.35px"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">Omri draws an comparison with OIDC: there were 2 draws. On the one hand, SDKs to handle the auth flow. On the other SSO and integration with identity management products. The interesting aspect here would be plug 'n play authorization.</span></p><p class="gmail-part gmail-in-view" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px 0px 16px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI","Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Roboto,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol";font-size:16px;letter-spacing:0.35px"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">George suggests that the OAuth Step-Up spec probably needs an update to point to a policy identifier.</span></p><p class="gmail-part gmail-in-view" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px 0px 16px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI","Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Roboto,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol";font-size:16px;letter-spacing:0.35px"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">What looks like a developer-friendly approach or impedence to developers in 2024 (</span><a href="https://hackmd.io/@xmlgrrl" class="gmail-mention-anchor gmail-user-card-popover" target="_blank" rel="noopener" title="" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(51,122,183);text-decoration-line:none">@xmlgrrl</a><span style="box-sizing:border-box">)?</span></p><h2 class="gmail-part gmail-in-view" id="gmail-Authorization-Spec" style="box-sizing:border-box;font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI","Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Roboto,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol";line-height:1.25;color:rgb(51,51,51);margin-top:24px;margin-bottom:16px;padding-bottom:0.3em;border-bottom:1px solid rgb(238,238,238);letter-spacing:0.35px"><a class="gmail-anchor gmail-hidden-xs" href="https://hackmd.io/LYp9s7KbRESqUC3T_WBeWA?both#Authorization-Spec" title="Authorization-Spec" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(51,122,183);text-decoration-line:none;float:left;padding-right:4px;line-height:1"><span class="gmail-octicon gmail-octicon-link" style="box-sizing:border-box;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:1;font-family:octicons;display:inline-block;color:rgb(0,0,0);vertical-align:middle"></span></a><span style="box-sizing:border-box">Authorization Spec</span></h2><ul class="gmail-part gmail-in-view" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:16px;padding-left:2em;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI","Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Roboto,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol";font-size:16px;letter-spacing:0.35px"><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box"><p style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:16px 0px"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">David to provide links to the REST Profile of XACML and the Request/Response model as well as the JSON profile of XACML.</span></p></li><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding-top:0.25em"><p style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:16px 0px"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">Atul: we could use the sub IDs. See </span><a href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-secevent-subject-identifiers" target="_blank" rel="noopener" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(51,122,183);text-decoration-line:none"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">here</span></a><span style="box-sizing:border-box">.</span></p></li></ul><h2 class="gmail-part gmail-in-view" id="gmail-Use-case-opportunities" style="box-sizing:border-box;font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI","Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Roboto,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol";line-height:1.25;color:rgb(51,51,51);margin-top:24px;margin-bottom:16px;padding-bottom:0.3em;border-bottom:1px solid rgb(238,238,238);letter-spacing:0.35px"><a class="gmail-anchor gmail-hidden-xs" href="https://hackmd.io/LYp9s7KbRESqUC3T_WBeWA?both#Use-case-opportunities" title="Use-case-opportunities" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(51,122,183);text-decoration-line:none;float:left;padding-right:4px;line-height:1"><span class="gmail-octicon gmail-octicon-link" style="box-sizing:border-box;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:1;font-family:octicons;display:inline-block;color:rgb(0,0,0);vertical-align:middle"></span></a><span style="box-sizing:border-box">Use case opportunities</span></h2><ul class="gmail-part gmail-in-view" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:16px;padding-left:2em;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI","Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Roboto,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol";font-size:16px;letter-spacing:0.35px"><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">Go down the path of being industry-specific? FHIR etc.</span></li><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding-top:0.25em"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">Go down the path of technical orientation? OWASP</span></li><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding-top:0.25em"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">Be mindful of the audience/persona (application developer seems primary)</span></li></ul><h2 class="gmail-part gmail-in-view" id="gmail-Collateral-opportunities" style="box-sizing:border-box;font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI","Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Roboto,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol";line-height:1.25;color:rgb(51,51,51);margin-top:24px;margin-bottom:16px;padding-bottom:0.3em;border-bottom:1px solid rgb(238,238,238);letter-spacing:0.35px"><a class="gmail-anchor gmail-hidden-xs" href="https://hackmd.io/LYp9s7KbRESqUC3T_WBeWA?both#Collateral-opportunities" title="Collateral-opportunities" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(51,122,183);text-decoration-line:none;float:left;padding-right:4px;line-height:1"><span class="gmail-octicon gmail-octicon-link" style="box-sizing:border-box;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:1;font-family:octicons;display:inline-block;color:rgb(0,0,0);vertical-align:middle"></span></a><span style="box-sizing:border-box">Collateral opportunities</span></h2><ul class="gmail-part gmail-in-view" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:16px;padding-left:2em;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI","Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Roboto,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol";font-size:16px;letter-spacing:0.35px"><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">Site equivalent to </span><a href="http://oauth.net/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(51,122,183);text-decoration-line:none"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">oauth.net</span></a><span style="box-sizing:border-box">: vendor neutral, dev resources - </span><a href="http://authzen.io/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(51,122,183);text-decoration-line:none"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">authzen.io</span></a><span style="box-sizing:border-box">!</span></li><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding-top:0.25em"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">FAQ - start on HackMD</span></li><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding-top:0.25em"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">Terminology doc(s)</span></li></ul><h2 class="gmail-part gmail-in-view" id="gmail-Next-steps" style="box-sizing:border-box;font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI","Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Roboto,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol";line-height:1.25;color:rgb(51,51,51);margin-top:24px;margin-bottom:16px;padding-bottom:0.3em;border-bottom:1px solid rgb(238,238,238);letter-spacing:0.35px"><a class="gmail-anchor gmail-hidden-xs" href="https://hackmd.io/LYp9s7KbRESqUC3T_WBeWA?both#Next-steps" title="Next-steps" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(51,122,183);text-decoration-line:none;float:left;padding-right:4px;line-height:1"><span class="gmail-octicon gmail-octicon-link" style="box-sizing:border-box;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:1;font-family:octicons;display:inline-block;color:rgb(0,0,0);vertical-align:middle"></span></a><span style="box-sizing:border-box">Next steps</span></h2><ul class="gmail-part gmail-in-view" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:16px;padding-left:2em;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI","Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Roboto,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol";font-size:16px;letter-spacing:0.35px"><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">Define the first use case → </span><a href="https://hackmd.io/@xmlgrrl" class="gmail-mention-anchor gmail-user-card-popover" target="_blank" rel="noopener" title="" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(51,122,183);text-decoration-line:none">@xmlgrrl</a></li><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding-top:0.25em"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">Why other frameworks? document + prior art → </span><a href="https://hackmd.io/@davidbrossard" class="gmail-mention-anchor gmail-user-card-popover" target="_blank" rel="noopener" title="" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(51,122,183);text-decoration-line:none">@davidbrossard</a></li><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding-top:0.25em"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">Next week’s meeting will be dedicated to the design patterns document</span><ul style="box-sizing:border-box;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;padding-left:2em"><li class="gmail-" style="box-sizing:border-box"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">Review comments from @alexbabeanu, @xmlgrrl , and others on </span><a href="https://hackmd.io/H2a8WW2vTjOc5xy4Tm85oQ" target="_blank" rel="noopener" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(51,122,183);text-decoration-line:none"><span style="box-sizing:border-box">Authorization Design Patterns</span></a></li></ul></li></ul><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"></div></div>