[Openid-specs-authzen] Meeting notes from Oct 23

gerry gebel ggebel at gmail.com
Thu Oct 23 18:50:08 UTC 2025


Recording:
https://zoom.us/rec/share/Ug9TUrlGamzf9IeafVXgS31VG6f90gtjgGxSnQY1eZTxFRLnvpDaPbwckVzAOSrI.h2vG91kwxylv5ums?pwd=DJ-yTxfIRX7eIGdSTQAAIAAAAPtkhYPoxzh2oMiJaiBzjt1y8KwpSFXMhUVWcCw1fIF5e0PKW7uWyAt80BHpuQ0KSDAwMDAwNA
Attendees

   - Omri Gazitt
   - Alex Olivier
   - Jonas Iggbom
   - Gerry Gebel
   - Dave Hyland
   - Wei Dai
   - David Brossard
   - Mark Berg
   - Vladi Berger

<#Agenda>Agenda

   - Omri is at IIW this week
   - Draft04: remaining open items?
   - Draft04: vote for working group approval
   - Gartner interop update

<#Notes>Notes

   - Omri at IIW: Received some accolades on process so far and fact that
   we are ready to go for Final status. Omri also met with Hadari to better
   understand conformance testing and learned about certification costs. There
   is also a self conformance model and are starting to work with third party
   companies on conformance certification. Bottom line, the working group will
   need to provide some specific guidance here. Omri also had a session
   yesterday that was well attended, including some heavyweights in the field.
   People were also interested in how shared signals would intersect with
   authzen (where PDPs could also produce events). Pagination actually was
   discussed :-) Hodari is available to assist with the Gartner interop,
   primarily around IP agreements and similar process items. Link to slides:

   https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1gCtFwd1naCyvMhxI-vkB1YVamOT-6_KCiAQsINdsBcQ/edit?usp=sharing
   - Gartner interop: Omri created the test harness, leveraging what was
   done for the search scenario. See authzen-interop.net for posted results
   - 3 implementations have passed the test suite so far.
   - Draft04 open items
      - From Michiel: "…it seems we should also clean up the terminology
      section. At least:
      PEP: Adjust to broadened definition
      Decision: also contains a context.
      Action: In search the action hasn't been attempted yet
      And the section marker {#security-avail-dos}} is broke (shows up in
      ToC) Note - extra } on the end
      - Add Elie as a contributor
      - The above items do not materially change draft04 and will
      incorporated into the next published iteration of draft04
   - Vote on draft04: Omri made a motion to approve draft04 for Final
   Specification, which was approved unanimously. Gerry will notify the OIDF
   Secretary of this status so we can move to community wide approval and
   voting.
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