[Openid-specs-authzen] meeting notes for July 22

[gerry gebel]

and the recording:
https://zoom.us/rec/share/o5-CJbJyuwy2m3NMVNb1PKlg0JgMFtRMucYbCMWXaxA7zRYF14KeomN_e8_LByg2.HZ2oJTkiRLh-ASmS?pwd=DMzxLkYIoaPAD-4STwAAIAAAALMSiIWTZKFuJhi1cEXjkgbAfRrE7ctY2gVbg1MKVUJkZ0gAvdBHsL8brKaT-6piZDAwMDAwNA

Attendees

   - Gerry Gebel
   - Jeff Lombardo
   - Michiel Trimpe
   - Alex Babaenu
   - Victor Lu
   - Gert Drapers
   - Vladi Berger
   - Julio Auto De Medeiros
   - Travis Farrell
   - Roland Baum

<#Agenda>Agenda

   - New time proposal for this meeting
   - Issues updates
      - 278: inconsistent use of reason and pagination. Alex B, timeline
      for splitting this into two PRs?
      - 268: security section needs details on client authN failure. Alex
      B, timeline for updates to this?
      - 46 and 47 Device ID and IP address

<#Notes>Notes

   -

   New time proposal: David Hyland suggests that we align this call with
   5am Australia time. This will enable him to join regularly and also provide
   more consistent times for other regions. One impact is that we will need to
   move to Wednesday or Thursday so as not to collide with the SSF call on
   Tuesday. Today's attendees prefer Thursday by a slight margin and we will
   make a final decision shortly.
   -

   Issue 278: Alex is unable to split into 2 PRs, can we focus on the
   content?
   - Gert volunteerd to split the changes into separate PRs, 278 will
      remain on the reason and a new PR will be created for pagination
      - It was determined that the proposed structure introduces a lot of
      semantics into the spec, which will require a lot of discussion before
      reaching an agreement. Keeping in the spirit of avoiding incorporating
      semantics into the spec, the reason section will only include
non-normative
      examples. We can learn from early implementations on what is needed here
      and this is another area where profiles can suggest recommended patterns
      and practices.
   -

   Issue 268: Jeff has issued a PR for this change
   -

   Issue 46/47: Device id and ip address will be non-normative examples
   -

   PR 345: JSON-LD support
   - Michiel wanted to discuss this PR so we can have a resolution. The
      discussion pointed out that JSON-LD is also a semantic change
and it's also
      a large topic that could delay our timeline for getting to version 1.0
      - Michiel agreed to have a presentation for the next call to review
      some of the context and reasoning for adding JSON-LD
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