[Openid-specs-authzen] Meeting Notes for Oct 24 2023

[Allan Foster]

Housekeeping

Mike L will freeze the policy charter mail list later today (canary:event?ts=719866805.00).
The AuthZEN mail list is live and operational
Contribution agreements are being processed as they are received

Co-chairs - Alan, Gerry, Andrew, David
- There was some discussion on whether we need that many
- By acclamation, we now have four co-chairs

Review OIDF web site content
- Mike asked that we review the web site for any updates or corrections

GitHub repo -
- Atul issued a PR to remove the license file. Anyone who submitted content up until now myst review and approve the PR. Approvals received from Omri, Alex, and David. Atul will check with Pieter and then he can initiate the transfer with Mike.

Slack -
Can set up channel, but any IPR related conversation, etc. cannot occur here. Only keeps 90 days of content.

Regular order:
How to organize ourselves?

Allan recounts the four topic areas discussed at IIW and notes are filled in for each (subsequently reduced to three):

1) Terminology: need to define the terms we will be using to avoid confusion
1A) Capture use cases: to help refine what is in and out of scope and to make sure we are addressing real world requirements.
- Eve will bring a list of known docs to next meeting
- Design patterns could also help drive prototyping and bring reality
- Alex started a draft on deployment patterns, could be starting point for a document

2) PEP-PDP
- Preliminary draft contributed by SGNL. Andrew suggests we discuss time frame to agree on this as a starting point, and continue the work from there.
- Should we start separate calls to dig into details? Not yet
- Voice calls only don’t help advance the work quickly enough. In other groups, General agreement that we will use GitHub repo for discussion via issues and pull requests.

3) Policy administration
- There are a couple presentations from IIW, like ALFA press by David and Policy experiences by Phil/Gerry that can be added to repo
- Need to scope this work clearly, could be future looking and not support current options
- Still don’t intend to create another runtime policy language
- This thread should tie into work on use cases, so that we are clear on intentions
- We will set up the workstream but it will likely follow on to the other streams

Open discussion:
Is there a way to advertise to other groups at OIDF?
- co chairs can reach out to Mike L for introductions
- You can join slack channels for the other WGs
- You can join other groups and spread word directly
- OIDF holds workshop every 6 months for all WGs
- Next workshop is Jan 18 (canary:event?ts=727300805.00) in Japan
- One day session ahed of each IIW
- One day workshop before EIC
- Meeting room is available at Identiverse if this group wants to hold a working session

Other events:
- OIDF coordinated a session with CISA for next Monday (canary:event?ts=720385205.00) to share info on SSF and AuthZEN
- David and Gerry submitted talk for RSA 2024
- Allan will pursue panel sessions at EIC and Identiverse

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