<div dir="ltr"><div>Otter seems to be truly evil.</div><div>When i let it look at my calendar it added itself to the meeting invite</div><div>so it now shows up just like a separate person and I cannot find a way to stop it without creating an otter account - which I really do not want to do.</div><div>I would guess that this sort of AI attachment to meetings will become A REAL PROBLEM for all of us - and very soon.</div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><font face="-apple-system, system-ui, system-ui, Segoe UI, Roboto, Helvetica Neue, Fira Sans, Ubuntu, Oxygen, Oxygen Sans, Cantarell, Droid Sans, Apple Color Emoji, Segoe UI Emoji, Segoe UI Symbol, Lucida Grande, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" color="#38761d"><span style="font-size:14px;background-color:rgb(242,242,242)">Peace ..tom jones</span></font></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Nov 25, 2024 at 5:18 PM Michael Jones via Openid-specs-ab <<a href="mailto:openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net">openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg-1549131120702795801">
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<p class="MsoNormal">Spec Call Notes 25-Nov-24<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Nat Sakimura<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Mike Jones<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Aaron Parecki<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Tim Cappalli<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Tom Jones<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Policy on AI Note Takers<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Mike rejected multiple AI note takers that tried to join the call<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> We don't have a foundation-wide policy on bots joining our calls<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Mike rejected them so that we could potentially have private discussions with the recording turned off<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> One of the AI note takers was Tom's<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> He had no problem with us not admitting it to the calls<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">OpenID Connect RP Metadata Choices<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <a href="https://github.com/openid/rp-metadata-choices/" target="_blank">
https://github.com/openid/rp-metadata-choices/</a><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <a href="https://github.com/openid/rp-metadata-choices/pull/1" target="_blank">
https://github.com/openid/rp-metadata-choices/pull/1</a> Multi-valued parameters are for requests and not responses<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Incorporates pre-adoption feedback from Filip and Joseph<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Mike will merge and publish after the call<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Native SSO spec<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <a href="https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/pull-requests/742" target="_blank">
https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/pull-requests/742</a> was merged last week<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> George will close the issues 2167, 2166, and 2164 which were addressed by it<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Vladimir told George that they're not leveraging the ID Token<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> They're putting the needed state in the device secret<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> George will send an e-mail to the list asking about not relying on state in the ID Token<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Bitbucket Issues<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <a href="https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/issues?status=new&status=open&status=submitted&is_spam=!spam" target="_blank">
https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/issues?status=new&status=open&status=submitted&is_spam=!spam</a><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> No new issues, No PRs<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">OpenID Federation<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <a href="https://github.com/openid/federation/pull/141" target="_blank">
https://github.com/openid/federation/pull/141</a> Federation Entity Keys MUST NOT appear in metadata<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Resolves a potential ambiguity<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Mike will merge after the call<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <a href="https://github.com/openid/federation/pull/142" target="_blank">
https://github.com/openid/federation/pull/142</a> Clarify description of using request objects<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Clarifies that Request Objects can be used at both the authorization endpoint and the PAR endpoint<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Mike will merge after the call<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <a href="https://github.com/openid/federation/issues/147" target="_blank">
https://github.com/openid/federation/issues/147</a> Client cannot know what client authentication method a server has registered it for<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Joseph suggests possibly only doing automatic registration at the PAR endpoint<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Feedback is requested<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <a href="https://github.com/openid/federation/issues/148" target="_blank">
https://github.com/openid/federation/issues/148</a> Guidance / Strategie on how to deal with conflicting metadata due to trust chain selection<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Feedback is requested<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">OpenID Federation Wallet Profile<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <a href="https://github.com/openid/federation-wallet/" target="_blank">
https://github.com/openid/federation-wallet/</a><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> No new issues, no PRs<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> People are encouraged to review the issues<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">OpenID Federation Extended Subordinate Listing<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <a href="https://github.com/openid/federation-extended-listing" target="_blank">
https://github.com/openid/federation-extended-listing</a><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> No issues or PRs<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Tom's OpenID4VP issue about consent<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <a href="https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/issues/333" target="_blank">
https://github.com/openid/OpenID4VP/issues/333</a> Verifiable Presentation does not meet the minimum requirements for holder informed consent<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> He also stated in an e-mail that ACM Ethics document with respect to holder's informed consent.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Discussion in the issue is welcomed<u></u><u></u></p>
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