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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Good question, Joseph!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Paginated listings are hard because the intended contents, semantics, and invariants (or lack thereof) of successive paginated results in the face of changing underlying datasets can vary considerably by use
case. The IETF SCIM working group took a shot at paginated listings in their initial RFCs and are now back at it for another swing at the target. This is taking them years, and while I believe we can and probably should build on their experiences, I don’t
have confidence we’ll get it “right” any sooner.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">But… We wanted to get something concrete written down now so people can implement, see how it’s working for them, and iterate. Paginated listings are motivated by a real need in open finance ecosystems,
among others.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">My personal thanks to my co-authors for starting us on this concrete engineering journey!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> -- Mike<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Vladimir Dzhuvinov via Openid-specs-ab<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 6, 2024 4:37 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Vladimir Dzhuvinov <vladimir@connect2id.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Openid-specs-ab] Call for Working Group Adoption of OpenID Federation Extended Subordinate Listing 1.0<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>It being still a work in progress and people seeing it as a Federation 1.0 extension rather than a required core API were the two reasons to choose the separate spec.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 06/08/2024 10:11, Joseph Heenan via Openid-specs-ab wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Could someone explain the thinking behind this being a separate spec rather than part of the federation spec please?
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Joseph<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 6 Aug 2024, at 02:15, Michael Jones via Openid-specs-ab <a href="mailto:openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net">
<openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net></a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">The OpenID Federation Extended Subordinate Listing 1.0 specification was contributed to the working group last week at<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://lists.openid.net/pipermail/openid-specs-ab/2024-August/010351.html"><span style="color:#467886">https://lists.openid.net/pipermail/openid-specs-ab/2024-August/010351.html</span></a>.
Per the decision on today’s working group call, this note starts a two-week call for working group adoption of the specification, running until Monday, August 19, 2024. Please reply to this e-mail indicating whether you support adoption and providing feedback
on the specification.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">This specification is a starting point – not an endpoint. If adopted, it can and will be revised by the working group.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">This specification specifies functionality needed by Federation topologies with wide fan-out and few or no intermediaries. This occurs in practice in several ecosystems.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">For your convenience, this specification is hosted at<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://github.com/MichaelFraser1999/federation-extended-listing"><span style="color:#467886">https://github.com/MichaelFraser1999/federation-extended-listing</span></a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>and
rendered HTML can be viewed at<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://michaelfraser1999.github.io/federation-extended-listing/main.html"><span style="color:#467886">https://michaelfraser1999.github.io/federation-extended-listing/main.html</span></a>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> -- Mike (writing as working group co-chair)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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