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<p class="MsoNormal">To reiterate, <b>we are having a hybrid SIOP call to talk about the Whitepaper</b> (since we want to start evangelizing the Editor’s draft at EIC next week..)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">For those in-person at OSW, meet us in room Lullaby (the room with a name that starts with “L” :P)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I do not think we will have time for issues/PRs, unless there are absolutely urgent once.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxmsonormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">- IPR reminder/recording</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxmsonormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">- Introductions/re-introductions</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxmsonormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">- <span class="xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxmarka6v39w0tx">Agenda</span> bashing/adoption</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxmsonormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">- Events/External orgs (borrowed from MODERNA WG’s notes, since it had a great summary)</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Security Workshop</a>, Trondheim, Norway, May 4-6, 2022<o:p></o:p></p>
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Identity and Cloud Conference (EIC)</a>, Berlin, Germany, May 10-13, 2022<o:p></o:p></p>
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San Francisco, CA, Jun. 6-9, 2022<o:p></o:p></p>
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Denver, CO, Jun. 20-23, 2022</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">- </span>The whitepaper
<a href="https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1H556GIM_xD1yKl7rw1seq4bu83movFCkU8fQ7T8b1dI%2Fedit&data=05%7C01%7CKristina.Yasuda%40microsoft.com%7Ca3e2f5020a0a471a80ac08da2345a7f4%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637861080372189746%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=NCTgsp0fd6vOd1hPIbMsiBprkmNMffyMZI4N6q7SBIE%3D&reserved=0">
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1H556GIM_xD1yKl7rw1seq4bu83movFCkU8fQ7T8b1dI/edit</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt">terminology: can we converge on OpenID for Verifiable Credentials?<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo6">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt">Terminology: RP or Verifier?<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo6">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt">Key takeaways <o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">- PRs </span><a href="https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbitbucket.org%2Fopenid%2Fconnect%2Fpull-requests%2F&data=05%7C01%7CKristina.Yasuda%40microsoft.com%7Ca3e2f5020a0a471a80ac08da2345a7f4%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637861080372239747%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=GiZO9pDDJe49k9n1o%2BBmumfQwlCUTNcNHkKbV34rhUg%3D&reserved=0"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/pull-requests/</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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PR #157: Building Trust Between Wallet and Issuer<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-right:3.0in;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0in;mso-list:l4 level2 lfo2">
PR #145: oidc4vci: Revises the approach to credential metadata publishing. Issue 1466<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-right:1.5in;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l4 level2 lfo2">
PR #152 – [siopv2] OP Identification/Attestation<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- Issues <a href="https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbitbucket.org%2Fopenid%2Fconnect%2Fissues%3Fstatus%3Dnew%26status%3Dopen%26component%3DSIOP%26component%3DVerifiable%2520Presentation%26component%3DCredential%2520Issuance&data=05%7C01%7CKristina.Yasuda%40microsoft.com%7Ca3e2f5020a0a471a80ac08da2345a7f4%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637861080372239747%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Bg9nlSEAZVfFFYM73Fr7%2BXikNdxHamLjRo2dzCymk0U%3D&reserved=0"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/issues?status=new&status=open&component=SIOP&component=Verifiable%20Presentation&component=Credential%20Issuance</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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(Max 15min per issue)<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-right:2.0in;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo3">
#1470: SIOP response with vp_token only?<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:middle">- As discussed in the previous SIOP call, editors triaged the issues to identify potential breaking changes in SIOPv2 and OIDC4VP specifications. This is important to be able to refer to these standards in
ISO documents.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l2 level2 lfo4;vertical-align:middle">1470: [oidc4vp] response_type = vp_token only in OIDC4VP<o:p></o:p></li><ul style="margin-top:0in" type="circle">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l2 level3 lfo4;vertical-align:middle">[siopv2] guidance around which claim the RP uses to re-authenticate the user, if it does (many issues boil down to this)<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l2 level2 lfo4;vertical-align:middle">1399: [siopv2] add text to SIOP that it can be used with traditional Ops<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l2 level2 lfo4;vertical-align:middle">1430/1431: [siopv2] adding RP/SIOP metadata to clarify it is SIOP
<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l2 level2 lfo4;vertical-align:middle">1402: [siopv2] Cross device flow w/ and w/o authorization_endpoint <o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l2 level2 lfo4;vertical-align:middle">1412: [siopv2] (optional) attestation claim to the ID Token – would not be breaking unless optional<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l2 level2 lfo4;vertical-align:middle">1401: [siopv2] Advanced/Better discovery/registration – might be important in light of solving a NASCAR problem<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l2 level2 lfo4;vertical-align:middle">1448: [siopv2] def of cross-device<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l2 level2 lfo4;vertical-align:middle">1389: [oidc4vp] unify vp_formats<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">- AOB </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxmsonormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Best,</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxmsonormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Kristina</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:SimSun"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Openid-specs-ab <openid-specs-ab-bounces@lists.openid.net>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Nat Sakimura via Openid-specs-ab<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 5, 2022 11:41 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net Ab <openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Nat Sakimura <sakimura@gmail.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Openid-specs-ab] Call today (May 5) is cancelled for the Main and SIOP calls<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As we are having the OAuth Security Workshop in Trondheim in person, I am cancelling the WG calls today. Sorry for being at the last minute. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best, <br clear="all">
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<p class="MsoNormal">Nat Sakimura (=nat)<o:p></o:p></p>
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