<div dir="ltr"><br clear="all"><div><h1 class="gmail-title" style="margin:0px 0px 10px;padding:0px;font-weight:400;color:rgb(23,43,77);font-size:24px;line-height:1.25;letter-spacing:-0.01em;font-family:-apple-system,system-ui,"Segoe UI",Roboto,Oxygen,Ubuntu,"Fira Sans","Droid Sans","Helvetica Neue",sans-serif">OpenID AB/Connect WG Meeting Notes (2021-08-12)</h1><ul class="gmail-simple" style="margin:12px 0px 0px;padding:0px 0px 0px 40px;color:rgb(23,43,77);font-family:-apple-system,system-ui,"Segoe UI",Roboto,Oxygen,Ubuntu,"Fira Sans","Droid Sans","Helvetica Neue",sans-serif;font-size:14px"><li style="overflow-wrap: break-word;">Date & Time: 2021-08-12 14:00 UTC</li><li style="margin:0px">Location: <a class="gmail-reference external" href="https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/181372694" rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(0,82,204);text-decoration-line:none">https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/181372694</a></li><li style="margin:0px">Self: <a href="https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Connect_Meeting_Notes_2021-08-12_Atlantic">https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Connect_Meeting_Notes_2021-08-12_Atlantic</a></li></ul><div class="gmail-contents gmail-topic" id="gmail-rst-header-agenda" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(23,43,77);font-family:-apple-system,system-ui,"Segoe UI",Roboto,Oxygen,Ubuntu,"Fira Sans","Droid Sans","Helvetica Neue",sans-serif;font-size:14px"><p class="gmail-topic-title gmail-first" style="margin:0px;padding:0px">Agenda</p><ul class="gmail-auto-toc gmail-simple" style="margin:12px 0px 0px;padding:0px 0px 0px 40px"><li style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><a class="gmail-reference gmail-internal" href="https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Connect_Meeting_Notes_2021-08-12_Atlantic#rst-header-roll-call" rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(0,82,204);text-decoration-line:none">1.   Roll Call</a></li><li style="margin:0px"><a class="gmail-reference gmail-internal" href="https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Connect_Meeting_Notes_2021-08-12_Atlantic#rst-header-adoption-of-agenda-nat" rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(0,82,204);text-decoration-line:none">2.   Adoption of Agenda (Nat)</a></li><li style="margin:0px"><a class="gmail-reference gmail-internal" href="https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Connect_Meeting_Notes_2021-08-12_Atlantic#rst-header-events-nat" rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(0,82,204);text-decoration-line:none">3.   Events (Nat)</a><ul class="gmail-auto-toc" style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px 0px 40px"><li style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><a class="gmail-reference gmail-internal" href="https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Connect_Meeting_Notes_2021-08-12_Atlantic#rst-header-eic-nat" rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(0,82,204);text-decoration-line:none">3.1.   EIC (Nat)</a></li></ul></li><li style="margin:0px"><a class="gmail-reference gmail-internal" href="https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Connect_Meeting_Notes_2021-08-12_Atlantic#rst-header-external-organizations" rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(0,82,204);text-decoration-line:none">4.   External Organizations</a><ul class="gmail-auto-toc" style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px 0px 40px"><li style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><a class="gmail-reference gmail-internal" href="https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Connect_Meeting_Notes_2021-08-12_Atlantic#rst-header-iso-sc17-wg10-kristina" rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(0,82,204);text-decoration-line:none">4.1.   ISO/SC17/WG10 (Kristina)</a></li><li style="margin:0px"><a class="gmail-reference gmail-internal" href="https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Connect_Meeting_Notes_2021-08-12_Atlantic#rst-header-w3c" rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(0,82,204);text-decoration-line:none">4.2.   W3C</a></li></ul></li><li style="margin:0px"><a class="gmail-reference gmail-internal" href="https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Connect_Meeting_Notes_2021-08-12_Atlantic#rst-header-prs" rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(0,82,204);text-decoration-line:none">5.   PRs</a><ul class="gmail-auto-toc" style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px 0px 40px"><li style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><a class="gmail-reference gmail-internal" href="https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Connect_Meeting_Notes_2021-08-12_Atlantic#rst-header-pr39-merging-cp-into-ca" rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(0,82,204);text-decoration-line:none">5.1.   PR39: merging CP into CA</a></li></ul></li><li style="margin:0px"><a class="gmail-reference gmail-internal" href="https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Connect_Meeting_Notes_2021-08-12_Atlantic#rst-header-issues" rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(0,82,204);text-decoration-line:none">6.   Issues</a><ul class="gmail-auto-toc" style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px 0px 40px"><li style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><a class="gmail-reference gmail-internal" href="https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Connect_Meeting_Notes_2021-08-12_Atlantic#rst-header-issues-in-the-comment-pr-34-by-torsten" rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(0,82,204);text-decoration-line:none">6.1.   #1268: Issues in the comment PR 34 by Torsten</a><ul class="gmail-auto-toc" style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px 0px 40px"><li style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><a class="gmail-reference gmail-internal" href="https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Connect_Meeting_Notes_2021-08-12_Atlantic#rst-header-section-2-2-bullet-1" rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(0,82,204);text-decoration-line:none">6.1.1.   Section 2.2 bullet 1</a></li><li style="margin:0px"><a class="gmail-reference gmail-internal" href="https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Connect_Meeting_Notes_2021-08-12_Atlantic#rst-header-section-2-2-bullet-2" rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(0,82,204);text-decoration-line:none">6.1.2.   Section 2.2 bullet 2</a></li></ul></li></ul></li><li style="margin:0px"><a class="gmail-reference gmail-internal" href="https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Connect_Meeting_Notes_2021-08-12_Atlantic#rst-header-aob" rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(0,82,204);text-decoration-line:none">7.   AOB</a></li></ul></div><p style="margin:12px 0px 0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(23,43,77);font-family:-apple-system,system-ui,"Segoe UI",Roboto,Oxygen,Ubuntu,"Fira Sans","Droid Sans","Helvetica Neue",sans-serif;font-size:14px">The meeting was called to order at 14:05 UTC.</p><div class="gmail-section" id="gmail-rst-header-roll-call" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(23,43,77);font-family:-apple-system,system-ui,"Segoe UI",Roboto,Oxygen,Ubuntu,"Fira Sans","Droid Sans","Helvetica Neue",sans-serif;font-size:14px"><h2 style="margin:20px 0px 0px;padding:0px;font-weight:400;font-size:20px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:-0.008em;font-style:inherit"><a class="gmail-toc-backref" href="https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Connect_Meeting_Notes_2021-08-12_Atlantic#rst-header-id1" rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(0,82,204);text-decoration-line:none">1.   Roll Call</a></h2><ul class="gmail-simple" style="margin:12px 0px 0px;padding:0px 0px 0px 40px"><li style="overflow-wrap: break-word;">Attending: Filip Skokan, Tom Jones, David Chadwick, Nat Sakimura, David Waite, Tim Cappalli, Pawel Kowalik, Jeremie Miller, Kristina Yasuda, Adam Lemmon, Chandon, Edmund Jay, Torsten Lodderstedt, John Bradley</li><li style="margin:0px">Regrets: Mike</li><li style="margin:0px">Guest: Andre Barnard (Singular Systems)</li></ul></div><div class="gmail-section" id="gmail-rst-header-adoption-of-agenda-nat" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(23,43,77);font-family:-apple-system,system-ui,"Segoe UI",Roboto,Oxygen,Ubuntu,"Fira Sans","Droid Sans","Helvetica Neue",sans-serif;font-size:14px"><h2 style="margin:20px 0px 0px;padding:0px;font-weight:400;font-size:20px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:-0.008em;font-style:inherit"><a class="gmail-toc-backref" href="https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Connect_Meeting_Notes_2021-08-12_Atlantic#rst-header-id2" rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(0,82,204);text-decoration-line:none">2.   Adoption of Agenda (Nat)</a></h2><ul class="gmail-simple" style="margin:12px 0px 0px;padding:0px 0px 0px 40px"><li style="overflow-wrap: break-word;">This call is dedicated to the Federation draft.</li></ul></div><div class="gmail-section" id="gmail-rst-header-events-nat" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(23,43,77);font-family:-apple-system,system-ui,"Segoe UI",Roboto,Oxygen,Ubuntu,"Fira Sans","Droid Sans","Helvetica Neue",sans-serif;font-size:14px"><h2 style="margin:20px 0px 0px;padding:0px;font-weight:400;font-size:20px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:-0.008em;font-style:inherit"><a class="gmail-toc-backref" href="https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Connect_Meeting_Notes_2021-08-12_Atlantic#rst-header-id3" rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(0,82,204);text-decoration-line:none">3.   Events (Nat)</a></h2><div class="gmail-section" id="gmail-rst-header-eic-nat" style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><h3 style="margin:20px 0px 0px;padding:0px;font-weight:400;font-size:18px;line-height:1.38889;letter-spacing:-0.006em;font-style:inherit"><a class="gmail-toc-backref" href="https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Connect_Meeting_Notes_2021-08-12_Atlantic#rst-header-id4" rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(0,82,204);text-decoration-line:none">3.1.   EIC (Nat)</a></h3><p style="margin:12px 0px 0px;padding:0px">We, as a WG, will be presenting on Sept. 13 at EIC. Need to come up with a presentation. If you have specific talking points, please chime into issue <a class="gmail-ap-connect-link" href="https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/issues/1275/agree-on-the-priority-talking-points-for" rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(0,82,204);text-decoration-line:none">#1275</a>.</p><p style="margin:12px 0px 0px;padding:0px">There are a bunch of people attending EIC from this WG.</p><p style="margin:12px 0px 0px;padding:0px">On-site: Nat, Torsten, Mike, Tim, Kristina Virtual: David C.</p></div></div><div class="gmail-section" id="gmail-rst-header-external-organizations" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(23,43,77);font-family:-apple-system,system-ui,"Segoe U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e draft is missing a parameter to determine the credential type. This is important to allow OPs to support multiple credentials, e.g. a bank could issue identity and credit score credentials, without to need to set up different issuers.</p><p style="margin:12px 0px 0px;padding:0px">=> Will be filed as Blocker</p></div><div class="gmail-section" id="gmail-rst-header-section-2-2-bullet-2" style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><h4 style="margin:20px 0px 0px;padding:0px;font-weight:400;font-size:16px;line-height:1.25;letter-spacing:-0.003em;font-style:inherit"><a class="gmail-toc-backref" href="https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Connect_Meeting_Notes_2021-08-12_Atlantic#rst-header-id13" rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(0,82,204);text-decoration-line:none">6.1.2.   Section 2.2 bullet 2</a></h4><p style="margin:12px 0px 0px;padding:0px">"Public-private key pairs are used by a requesting Credential Holder to establish a means of binding to the resulting credential. A Credential Holder making a Credential Request to a Credential Issuer must prove control over this binding mechanism during the request, this is accomplished through the extended usage of a signed request defined in OpenID Connect Core.“ Does this mean the holder can prove control using a signed authentication request? If so, why isn’t the credential provided in the token response?</p><p style="margin:12px 0px 0px;padding:0px">Adam replied that the currently proposed mechanism is to include the identifier that is bound to the key pair in the request and sign the request using the signing key in the key pair. David C and John B agreed that would work.</p><p style="margin:12px 0px 0px;padding:0px">Then, Jeremy pointed out that will not work for ZKP/BBS+ case and explained how it could work.</p><p style="margin:12px 0px 0px;padding:0px">Apparently, there need to be more than two mechanisms to support, and potentially we need an extension point for further expansion.</p><p style="margin:12px 0px 0px;padding:0px">This issue will be discussed in the new separate ticket.</p></div></div></div><div class="gmail-section" id="gmail-rst-header-aob" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(23,43,77);font-family:-apple-system,system-ui,"Segoe UI",Roboto,Oxygen,Ubuntu,"Fira Sans","Droid Sans","Helvetica Neue",sans-serif;font-size:14px"><h2 style="margin:20px 0px 0px;padding:0px;font-weight:400;font-size:20px;line-height:1.5;letter-spacing:-0.008em;font-style:inherit"><a class="gmail-toc-backref" href="https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Connect_Meeting_Notes_2021-08-12_Atlantic#rst-header-id14" rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(0,82,204);text-decoration-line:none">7.   AOB</a></h2><p style="margin:12px 0px 0px;padding:0px">Please vote (even abstention will work) to CIBA Core and SSE voting.</p><p style="margin:12px 0px 0px;padding:0px">The meeting was adjourned at 15:02 UTC</p></div></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Nat Sakimura<div>NAT.Consulting LLC</div></div></div></div>