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<p class="MsoNormal">Spec Call Notes 28-Jun-21<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Mike Jones<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">John Bradley<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Nat Sakimura<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Kristina Yasuda<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Anthony Nadalin<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Tom Jones<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Jeremie Miller<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Edmund Jay<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">David Waite (DW)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">IPR Policy for Special Calls<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Tony asked what IPR regime the special calls operate under<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Nat and Mike affirmed that these are OpenID Connect calls operating under the OpenID IPR Regime<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Kristina wondered whether we can have some calls with joint OpenID and DIF IPR policy<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> John said that that would be a field day for lawyers<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> The DIF spec operates under the DIF IPR Policy<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Kristina said that DIF could have their own call under their own IPR Policy<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Mike said that he'll respond to Tony's e-mail query<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Nat suggested that the same person file duplicate issues for Connect and DIF, where applicable<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Events<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Identiverse<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Identiverse was last week - held as a hybrid event<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Kristina reported that the Solar Winds attack was actually an identity attack<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Jeremie reported that Ping announced the ShoCard personal credentials product<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> It uses JWT serializations<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Applied Cryptography and Network Security Conference<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Nat will reprise the talk at virtual Identiverse<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> He gave challenges to cryptographers<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> European Identity and Cloud Conference (EIC) in Munich in mid-September<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> There will be an OpenID Workshop<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> The FAPI WG is working on a meet-up there<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> This may be the first in-person identity conference that many people choose to attend<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Federation Specification<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> The current draft is <a href="https://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-federation-1_0-16.html">
https://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-federation-1_0-16.html</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Roland is responding to Torsten's review<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> DW sent a review today<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Mostly on nomenclature<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> He's also advocating against per-audience metadata<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> He's advocating deterministic resolution rules<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> He's interested in use by SIOP<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Tom read it<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> He thought that some of the dynamic possibilities might be a feature<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Mike suggested that we could have a call dedicated to Federation<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> We would want Roland and hopefully the implementers there<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> DW would be interested if it's one of the morning calls<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Tony asked about the relationship to the proposed W3C Federation CG<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Mike described that federations use federated login, and so both communities are interested in keeping federated login working<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Potentially pertinent to the Browser Interactions Special Call<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Nat reported that in Android 12 Beta2, App Links (https scheme) from ChromeCustomTabs seems to have stopped working<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> DW reported they are making changes to App Links, so this likely is an issue we should raise as a regression (in hopes it isn't a policy change)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Kristina said that this could influence SIOP chooser work<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Nat said that it could also affect OAuth Native Applications Best Practices<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">DHS Response<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Kristina applied feedback received, including from Tony and Torsten<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Kristina needs to respond to a question from Torsten about the mDL use case<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Torsten also made suggestions about a CIBA-like flow, which we should try to understand<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> We're asking for internal comments by June 30th<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Open Pull Requests<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <a href="https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/pull-requests/">
https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/pull-requests/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> PR #23: introduce "presentation_definition" element<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> To be discussed on the next SIOP special call<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Open Issues<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <a href="https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/issues?status=new&status=open">
https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/issues?status=new&status=open</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> #1250: Separating Claims Aggregation and Credential Provider drafts<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Kristina described the differences in the flows that she was calling out in the issue<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Nat said this is related to issue #1253: Threat analysis for Binding between VC and VP<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> He said there's danger in completely separating issuance from presentation<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Kristina suggested discussing the call on an Atlantic call, so Torsten can attend<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> 1253: Threat analysis for Binding between VC and VP<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Nat said the security issues discussed pertain to the security discussion in PR #22<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Next Call<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> The next regular Connect call will be on Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 7am Pacific Time<o:p></o:p></p>
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