<div dir="ltr">This federation work may be doing work useful to large companies that make billions of dollars on SSO, it is not addressing the core problem. <b>We cannot transit a user from an RP to a user wallet and back again in a browser session.</b> There do seem to be a few participants that think the RPs are the key to success, but they act like user preference is not important. It is my opinion that the success of OpenID Connect was primarily the ease of use. The user's liked it. It solved a problem for the users. It was easy for the users.<div><br></div><div>Interestingly, the SIOP work group has wandered away from solving the core problem as well. The only guy that seems to be addressing the problem is DW in his three current issues. But I am afraid those will be lost in the noise. In any case he is trying to fix a set of approved work items which are fundamentally broken in the user sense articulated above. I consider that to be an impossible task.</div><div><br></div><div>Since we no longer have agendas in advance, it is hard to know what will actually happen in any given session. Perhaps we can break off a small group that addresses just the core problem?<br><div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><span style="background-color:rgb(242,242,242);color:rgba(0,0,0,0.9);font-family:-apple-system,system-ui,system-ui,"Segoe UI",Roboto,"Helvetica Neue","Fira Sans",Ubuntu,Oxygen,"Oxygen Sans",Cantarell,"Droid Sans","Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol","Lucida Grande",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;white-space:pre-wrap">Be the change you want to see in the world </span>..tom</div></div></div></div><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jun 1, 2021 at 9:05 AM Tim Cappalli via Openid-specs-ab <<a href="mailto:openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net">openid-specs-ab@lists.openid.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Hi all,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Here's the
<a href="https://bitbucket.org/openid/connect/wiki/Browser%20Interactions%20Special%20Topics%20Call%20-%2020210602" target="_blank">
agenda for tomorrow</a>. Please let me know if you'd like to add anything ahead of time.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">* Intros, reintros, agenda bash<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">* Recap federation workshop
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">* Role of the browser (discussion)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">* W3C Federated Identity WG discussion ([Charter work](<a href="https://github.com/hlflanagan/fedidcg" target="_blank">https://github.com/hlflanagan/fedidcg</a>))<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">* Review Front-Channel Logout Use Case
<a href="https://github.com/IDBrowserUseCases/docs/pull/23" target="_blank">https://github.com/IDBrowserUseCases/docs/pull/23</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">* Topics for next call<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">* Open Discussion<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Thanks!<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">tim<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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